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[Resolved] Call and text difficulties issue 12/10/2012

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Update 17/10: 13:00

 

Hi everyone, 

 

We've just had a blog post go live from our COO, Derek McManus on our plans to improve the stability of our network and rebuild confidence in O2.

 


Rebuilding your trust in our leading network

Following the network disruption that affected some customers last week (http://news.o2.co.uk/2012/10/12/o2-network-disruption-12-october), I wanted to share our plan to improve the stability of our network and rebuild confidence in O2.

 

First, let me say we are extremely disappointed to have let our customers down again. Two network faults in a short space of time is unsatisfactory. We took important steps with our supplier after the outage in July to prevent a similar fault happening again, and while this issue was not on the same scale, it did impact our customers. Despite industry-leading technology and major investment in our network, we recognise we need to take immediate action to address this specific problem:

 

1) We are removing the Central User Database provided by one of our suppliers, which has suffered two different faults in the last few months. We are not prepared to risk this happening to our customers for a third time and are implementing a proven alternative solution.

 

2) We will be committing an additional spend of £10 million on this change, and will also continue to invest £1.5m a day on building out and improving our network.

 

3) We are up-weighting and re-focussing our Service Experience Team to be solely dedicated to ensuring the highest level of customer network experience while we go through this period of unprecedented investment, culminating in the delivery of our 4G service.  Their performance will now be measured on customers’ confidence in our network.

 

While we recognise that we have dented the confidence and trust of some of our customers, I hope this plan will demonstrate our commitment to rebuilding that trust. We will not rest until we have cemented the stability of our network and can deliver the level of service customers have come to expect of us over the last ten years.

 

At O2, the experience of our customers governs and determines everything we do. It is no accident that we have established ourselves as the benchmark for customer satisfaction with the fewest complaints of any network as determined by the regulator, Ofcom. We are determined to live up to that in the eyes of our customers.

 

As such, the continual improvement of our network and the strive for excellence in customer experience is our focus, and will be a topic that I and my colleagues will be continuing to talk about with customers over the coming weeks.



Best, 

Leonard

 

 

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Update 17:00

 

Hi guys,

 

The blog has just been updated. Please find the full article below:

 


We’ve been updating this afternoon on twitterfacebook and our communityabout the fact around 10% of our customers have been unable to make or receive calls, or use data. The good news? The cause of the fault was identified and fixed this afternoon.

 

The bad news? Due to high phone use during the “rush hour” early evening period customers may experience intermittent performance as full service comes back for everyone. We would like to reassure those customers still affected that we are working as hard as we can to restore normal service to everyone.

 

Update – 13 October 09:26
We’re still monitoring the situation, but everything is fixed. If you’re still having problems, try turning your phone on and off. We’re sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.

 

Update – 15 October 19:00
Everyone with a phone impacted by Friday’s network issue and knock-on disruption should now have fully restored service. We’ll be updating later this week and we’re sorry for the inconvenience.

 

Q & A 

 

Q. What has gone wrong?
A. One of our network nodes which help connect and manage traffic, failed at lunchtime today. This meant that a number of our customers have had difficulty connecting to our network to make calls or use data. A fix was found by 3.30pm and since then we have been reconnecting customers systematically. We are working as quickly as we can to restore service to everyone.

 

Q. Why are only some people impacted?
A. The fault was on one of several nodes that help connect and manage traffic on the network, which is why only 10% of customers have been affected. To fully restore service a backlog of traffic has had to be processed following the fix.

 

Q. When will service be fully restored?
A. Some people had their service restored from 3.30pm this afternoon when we began systematically reconnecting affected customers to the network. We are working as quickly as we can to restore service to all our customers.

 

Q. Is this the same fault as the one in July?
A. No, the cause was different. However, it has had a similar impact on our customers, albeit fewer of them.

 

Q. Why did you not have the necessary resilience?
A. We have extensive continuity plans which we brought into effect to restore service as quickly as we could. In this instance, a fix was found in three hours and we were able to start reconnecting customers systematically from 3.30pm this afternoon. However, are having to address the backlog of traffic to fully restore service.

 

Q. Will you be offering compensation?
A. While the network outage on the afternoon of October 12th was highly regrettable we will not be offering compensation in this case.

We are genuinely sorry that a number of customers had problems with their service on Friday afternoon and evening. The problem is now fixed and full service has been restored.  We can assure all our customers that we are continually working to improve the consistency of service they get from our network.

 

Q. Can you be confident this won’t happen again?
A. We operate to the highest industry standards and using leading industry infrastructure. We will continue to challenge and assess what further steps we and our infrastructure partners can take to further improve our network performance.




Best,

Leonard

 

 

Update 3:00

 

Hi guys,

 

Just another update for you:

 

Further to our previous update where some customers in some areas were unable to make or receive calls, send texts or use data, service has been fully restored for all remaining impacted customers. 

 

Our engineers continue to monitor the situation through the night. Customers still experiencing issues should try to power the phone off and on. Once again we’re are sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.

 

That means that if you're still experiencing problems after switching off and on your device, it is most likely unrelated to this issue. Please check the status checker in this case or start a thread in the Pay Monthly and Pay & Go boards.

 

I would like to apologise for any inconvenience again. I can understand it's frustrating to have no network.

 

Best,

Leonard

 

 

Update 21:00

 

Hi guys,

 

We've just received a further update. Please find it below:

 

We’ve been updating this afternoon on twitterfacebook and our communityabout the fact around 10% of our customers have been unable to make or receive calls, or use data. The good news? The cause of the fault was identified and fixed this afternoon.

 

The bad news? Due to high phone use during the “rush hour” early evening period customers may experience intermittent performance as full service comes back for everyone. We would like to reassure those customers still affected that we are working as hard as we can to restore normal service to everyone.

 

Q & A 

 

Q. What has gone wrong?

A. One of our network nodes which help connect and manage traffic, failed at lunchtime today. This meant that a number of our customers have had difficulty connecting to our network to make calls or use data. A fix was found by 3.30pm and since then we have been reconnecting customers systematically. We are working as quickly as we can to restore service to everyone.

 

Q. Why are only some people impacted?
A. The fault was on one of several nodes that help connect and manage traffic on the network, which is why only 10% of customers have been affected. To fully restore service a backlog of traffic has had to be processed following the fix.

 

Q. When will service be fully restored?
A. Some people had their service restored from 3.30pm this afternoon when we began systematically reconnecting affected customers to the network. We are working as quickly as we can to restore service to all our customers.

 

Q. Is this the same fault as the one in July?
A. No, the cause was different. However, it has had a similar impact on our customers, albeit fewer of them.

 

Q. Why did you not have the necessary resilience?
A. We have extensive continuity plans which we brought into effect to restore service as quickly as we could. In this instance, a fix was found in three hours and we were able to start reconnecting customers systematically from 3.30pm this afternoon. However, are having to address the backlog of traffic to fully restore service.

 

 

Update 20:00

Hi guys,

Just had the following update:

We’ve been updating this afternoon on twitterfacebook and Community about the fact around 10% of our customers, in some areas, have been unable to make or receive calls, or use data. The Good News? The cause of the fault was identified and fixed this afternoon.

 

The Bad News? Due to high phone use during the “rush hour” early evening period customers may also experience intermittent performance as full service comes back for everyone. We would like to reassure those customers still affected that we are working as hard as we can to restore normal service to everyone.

 

We’ll update further if there are further developments.

 

 

Update 18:50

 

Hi guys,

 

A fix has been made to the network and we're getting reports of phones coming back on the network. This is happening gradually, so if you're still experiencing difficulties, it shouldn't be taking much longer.

 

Many thanks for your patience

 

 

Update 16:00

 

Hi guys,

 

Around 10% of our customers are having problems when making calls or using data. Some are back up and running now and we expect a full fix this afternoon. 

 

Again, I'm very sorry for any inconvenience this might have caused.

 

 

 

Update 14:00

 

Hi guys,

 

Please also use the status checker to keep up to date: http://status.o2.co.uk/

 

The latest update says:

 
"Making calls and using data
 
We've got some problems with our phone service right now. Some phone numbers might not be working. Those numbers are not location specific"

 

 

Original post:

 

Hi everyone,

 

We have received reports that some members are experiencing problems with their phones when trying to call or text. Data may also be affected and this is being investigated. 

 

If you are experiencing problems, please post what you have tried to do to fix the problem (rebooting the phone, wiping your SIM card etc), even if it did not work. Please also have a look at the status checker: http://status.o2.co.uk/

 

Alternatively, if you have not been affected, that would be great to know too.

 

I shall update this thread with any news as I receive it, so please keep posted here and let us know if your situation changes.

 

Many thanks for your patience,

 

Toby

 

 

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as a business owner u must realise than how if one telephone number goes down how it effect u over say a "normal" consumer. ie customers cant reach u, u cant make calls to suppliers, sales people etc.. But it is one reason why "business" users pay more, for better after service / reliability. ie on BT telephone line if line goes down, engineer will be out on business line within 4 hours to look at it 24/7 and BT will divert calls to your mobile and reimburse u for calls made on your mobile. But of course u are paying for that service level. He might have a backup (in fact a bit stupid not too since already had it happen in July, ie the saying go "catch me once, shame on you, catch me twice, shame on me.") But as a business (and assuming he is geniunely on a business line rental, can ask for compensation. Just like a client of yours can ask for compensation from u if your tool say smash their front door, so they need a new door install, and stay at a hotel for a night.
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notice the bit "beyond our control part" having good equipment with "backups" which someone mention why the business owner who is complaining doesnt have, (why not O2) is on their control. What that "beyond our control" is more related to force of nature, if you go into a lead building which "you" chose to do, which obviously have no control. It has failed twice now (esp if it has effected the user concern twice) hence he can and ppl have in the past on o2, orange, Vodafone, three cancel contract (with no penalty, ie network might try but after them going to higher complaint chain / threaten regulator / court action it get resolved.) But before someone saying I am wrong. Lets assume I am right for a moment....

what network are u going to move to? All have problems, like I said just above I know ppl who were on Three / Orange / T-Mobile / Vodafone who got their contracts cancelled early due to no signal problems. (Some got boxes with Orange / Vodafone to improve signal.) So all will have problems no matter where u move to. To be frank probably the only way to decrease downtime, is get an overseas simcard, so one can roam on all the networks, and use a call forwarding service to that number.

NB:  to the admin of the forums, you should change this topic from "resolved" cause it is not resolved, many ppl still got problems with their phones, both on this forums and off the forums...

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48 hours now still "No Service" constantly lied to by o2 Guru's, one said 1-4 hours at 4pm yesterday, still nothing this morning at 09.23, see you all down at Orange, was with them 12 years no problems, 2 minutes with o2 nothing but hassle !
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Having been a customer of O2 for 7yrs without so much as a dropped call, the weekend I most wanted service and O2 failed! Customer service to busy, Lucy the online chat totally useless and the O2 shop not very helpful now they have my money! Frustrating is an under statement!
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48 hrs now

 

CONSTANTLY LIED TO BY o2

 

Bunch of mugs, hope the company goes to the gutter, management should be ashamed of themselves in OFFERING NO COMPENSATION.

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Thank you for the link. But it's not true. My area says fine but I've had 0-1 network bar this whole weekend. Is this possibly an iPhone problem too? Any other phones having problems?
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It could be an iPhone issue. Do you travel outside of your area?

You can phone O2 and inform them of a problem they'll dispatch engineers to check the issue
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People still having g problems.

Try rebooting ur device and no I don't mean turn it off.

IPhone.... press n hold HOME n POWER buttons until the device actually shuts down.

People with a REMOVABLE BATTERY. Just remove ur battery while it is turned on.

Other handsets not covered, I don't know.lol

This will make ur handset reconnect.to the network when u turn ur device back on

This should resolve any issues u still have.

If it doesn't then it's either ur handset or the SIM card.
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U could also go to MYO2 and get the settings resent to ur device.
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Having been with Cellnet from 1993-4, O2 contract from 2002-3 and then with O2 PAYG for 12 months a year or so back I finally decided to end my troublesome affair with Three and their 3G network which suffered two deteriorations, first when they moved from O2 to Orange as their 2G back-up partner and then they started switching off 2G back-up in areas where they felt sure their own 3G masts covered properly = loss of signal in many previously covered areas.

 

So I joined O2 PAYG again and decided to hopefully stay with them forever. I ported my number over (it cost £250 a while back) and joined up to the new Pay & Go Go Go tariff which rewards loyalty. Two weeks ago I had problems with no signal which the network checker said was down to "a mast in my area not working". Since Friday 12-10-2012 I have experienced yet more issues, mostly no signal in varying locations such as Warrington, Carlisle and since late Friday here in Largs, Ayrshire I have had either no signal or very occasionally a signal for maybe 15 minutes then it switches off again.

 

Current situation. I am heading to work now and have had to bring my little holiday flip phone out of hibernation. It is on another network and luckily has £25 on it. I have just looked up the O2 website for my postcode and it contradicts itself as follows:

 

Further to our previous update where some customers in some areas were unable to make or receive calls, send texts or use data, we're still monitoring the situation, but everything is fixed. If you're still having problems, try turning your phone on and off. We're sorry for any inconvenience this has caused. 09:45 15/10/12.

Next update at 12:00 15/10/12.

 

Live results for KA30 ***, Largs, North Ayrshire

 
Sorry a phone mast close to you isn't working
This means you might experience problems making calls, using the internet, or sending/receiving emails in this area.
Updated 13:00 (refreshed hourly). Recent faults might not show yet.
 
Yes I have switched my phone on and off several times and the problem is clearly with the network. Note the contradictory info all from the one webpage! I'm sorry to say that if this is not fixed my midday tomorrow, Tuesday 16-10-2012, then I am going to have to leave O2 as that will be four days of problems. I use my mobile phone for my main employment and also I am a member of a management committee and need my phone to check my emails on a constant basis 0600-2100 every day. Okay so I am 'just' a PAYG customer and probably not worth the hassle but at approx. £150/year, if 1000 of us PAYG folks leave then that is £150,000 lost revenue and that's just if 1000 people leave.
 
The only plus is that I am a PAYG customer and my little Samsung GT-C3560 is a sim free handset that I bought on Amazon. I totally sympathise with all the pay monthly personal and business customers who are stuck in the situation.
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