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[Resolved] Call and text difficulties issue 12/10/2012

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Update 17/10: 13:00

 

Hi everyone, 

 

We've just had a blog post go live from our COO, Derek McManus on our plans to improve the stability of our network and rebuild confidence in O2.

 


Rebuilding your trust in our leading network

Following the network disruption that affected some customers last week (http://news.o2.co.uk/2012/10/12/o2-network-disruption-12-october), I wanted to share our plan to improve the stability of our network and rebuild confidence in O2.

 

First, let me say we are extremely disappointed to have let our customers down again. Two network faults in a short space of time is unsatisfactory. We took important steps with our supplier after the outage in July to prevent a similar fault happening again, and while this issue was not on the same scale, it did impact our customers. Despite industry-leading technology and major investment in our network, we recognise we need to take immediate action to address this specific problem:

 

1) We are removing the Central User Database provided by one of our suppliers, which has suffered two different faults in the last few months. We are not prepared to risk this happening to our customers for a third time and are implementing a proven alternative solution.

 

2) We will be committing an additional spend of £10 million on this change, and will also continue to invest £1.5m a day on building out and improving our network.

 

3) We are up-weighting and re-focussing our Service Experience Team to be solely dedicated to ensuring the highest level of customer network experience while we go through this period of unprecedented investment, culminating in the delivery of our 4G service.  Their performance will now be measured on customers’ confidence in our network.

 

While we recognise that we have dented the confidence and trust of some of our customers, I hope this plan will demonstrate our commitment to rebuilding that trust. We will not rest until we have cemented the stability of our network and can deliver the level of service customers have come to expect of us over the last ten years.

 

At O2, the experience of our customers governs and determines everything we do. It is no accident that we have established ourselves as the benchmark for customer satisfaction with the fewest complaints of any network as determined by the regulator, Ofcom. We are determined to live up to that in the eyes of our customers.

 

As such, the continual improvement of our network and the strive for excellence in customer experience is our focus, and will be a topic that I and my colleagues will be continuing to talk about with customers over the coming weeks.



Best, 

Leonard

 

 

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Update 17:00

 

Hi guys,

 

The blog has just been updated. Please find the full article below:

 


We’ve been updating this afternoon on twitterfacebook and our communityabout the fact around 10% of our customers have been unable to make or receive calls, or use data. The good news? The cause of the fault was identified and fixed this afternoon.

 

The bad news? Due to high phone use during the “rush hour” early evening period customers may experience intermittent performance as full service comes back for everyone. We would like to reassure those customers still affected that we are working as hard as we can to restore normal service to everyone.

 

Update – 13 October 09:26
We’re still monitoring the situation, but everything is fixed. If you’re still having problems, try turning your phone on and off. We’re sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.

 

Update – 15 October 19:00
Everyone with a phone impacted by Friday’s network issue and knock-on disruption should now have fully restored service. We’ll be updating later this week and we’re sorry for the inconvenience.

 

Q & A 

 

Q. What has gone wrong?
A. One of our network nodes which help connect and manage traffic, failed at lunchtime today. This meant that a number of our customers have had difficulty connecting to our network to make calls or use data. A fix was found by 3.30pm and since then we have been reconnecting customers systematically. We are working as quickly as we can to restore service to everyone.

 

Q. Why are only some people impacted?
A. The fault was on one of several nodes that help connect and manage traffic on the network, which is why only 10% of customers have been affected. To fully restore service a backlog of traffic has had to be processed following the fix.

 

Q. When will service be fully restored?
A. Some people had their service restored from 3.30pm this afternoon when we began systematically reconnecting affected customers to the network. We are working as quickly as we can to restore service to all our customers.

 

Q. Is this the same fault as the one in July?
A. No, the cause was different. However, it has had a similar impact on our customers, albeit fewer of them.

 

Q. Why did you not have the necessary resilience?
A. We have extensive continuity plans which we brought into effect to restore service as quickly as we could. In this instance, a fix was found in three hours and we were able to start reconnecting customers systematically from 3.30pm this afternoon. However, are having to address the backlog of traffic to fully restore service.

 

Q. Will you be offering compensation?
A. While the network outage on the afternoon of October 12th was highly regrettable we will not be offering compensation in this case.

We are genuinely sorry that a number of customers had problems with their service on Friday afternoon and evening. The problem is now fixed and full service has been restored.  We can assure all our customers that we are continually working to improve the consistency of service they get from our network.

 

Q. Can you be confident this won’t happen again?
A. We operate to the highest industry standards and using leading industry infrastructure. We will continue to challenge and assess what further steps we and our infrastructure partners can take to further improve our network performance.




Best,

Leonard

 

 

Update 3:00

 

Hi guys,

 

Just another update for you:

 

Further to our previous update where some customers in some areas were unable to make or receive calls, send texts or use data, service has been fully restored for all remaining impacted customers. 

 

Our engineers continue to monitor the situation through the night. Customers still experiencing issues should try to power the phone off and on. Once again we’re are sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.

 

That means that if you're still experiencing problems after switching off and on your device, it is most likely unrelated to this issue. Please check the status checker in this case or start a thread in the Pay Monthly and Pay & Go boards.

 

I would like to apologise for any inconvenience again. I can understand it's frustrating to have no network.

 

Best,

Leonard

 

 

Update 21:00

 

Hi guys,

 

We've just received a further update. Please find it below:

 

We’ve been updating this afternoon on twitterfacebook and our communityabout the fact around 10% of our customers have been unable to make or receive calls, or use data. The good news? The cause of the fault was identified and fixed this afternoon.

 

The bad news? Due to high phone use during the “rush hour” early evening period customers may experience intermittent performance as full service comes back for everyone. We would like to reassure those customers still affected that we are working as hard as we can to restore normal service to everyone.

 

Q & A 

 

Q. What has gone wrong?

A. One of our network nodes which help connect and manage traffic, failed at lunchtime today. This meant that a number of our customers have had difficulty connecting to our network to make calls or use data. A fix was found by 3.30pm and since then we have been reconnecting customers systematically. We are working as quickly as we can to restore service to everyone.

 

Q. Why are only some people impacted?
A. The fault was on one of several nodes that help connect and manage traffic on the network, which is why only 10% of customers have been affected. To fully restore service a backlog of traffic has had to be processed following the fix.

 

Q. When will service be fully restored?
A. Some people had their service restored from 3.30pm this afternoon when we began systematically reconnecting affected customers to the network. We are working as quickly as we can to restore service to all our customers.

 

Q. Is this the same fault as the one in July?
A. No, the cause was different. However, it has had a similar impact on our customers, albeit fewer of them.

 

Q. Why did you not have the necessary resilience?
A. We have extensive continuity plans which we brought into effect to restore service as quickly as we could. In this instance, a fix was found in three hours and we were able to start reconnecting customers systematically from 3.30pm this afternoon. However, are having to address the backlog of traffic to fully restore service.

 

 

Update 20:00

Hi guys,

Just had the following update:

We’ve been updating this afternoon on twitterfacebook and Community about the fact around 10% of our customers, in some areas, have been unable to make or receive calls, or use data. The Good News? The cause of the fault was identified and fixed this afternoon.

 

The Bad News? Due to high phone use during the “rush hour” early evening period customers may also experience intermittent performance as full service comes back for everyone. We would like to reassure those customers still affected that we are working as hard as we can to restore normal service to everyone.

 

We’ll update further if there are further developments.

 

 

Update 18:50

 

Hi guys,

 

A fix has been made to the network and we're getting reports of phones coming back on the network. This is happening gradually, so if you're still experiencing difficulties, it shouldn't be taking much longer.

 

Many thanks for your patience

 

 

Update 16:00

 

Hi guys,

 

Around 10% of our customers are having problems when making calls or using data. Some are back up and running now and we expect a full fix this afternoon. 

 

Again, I'm very sorry for any inconvenience this might have caused.

 

 

 

Update 14:00

 

Hi guys,

 

Please also use the status checker to keep up to date: http://status.o2.co.uk/

 

The latest update says:

 
"Making calls and using data
 
We've got some problems with our phone service right now. Some phone numbers might not be working. Those numbers are not location specific"

 

 

Original post:

 

Hi everyone,

 

We have received reports that some members are experiencing problems with their phones when trying to call or text. Data may also be affected and this is being investigated. 

 

If you are experiencing problems, please post what you have tried to do to fix the problem (rebooting the phone, wiping your SIM card etc), even if it did not work. Please also have a look at the status checker: http://status.o2.co.uk/

 

Alternatively, if you have not been affected, that would be great to know too.

 

I shall update this thread with any news as I receive it, so please keep posted here and let us know if your situation changes.

 

Many thanks for your patience,

 

Toby

 

 

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It's now 1.50pm and we are still waiting for the 12.00pm update! Ridiculous O2 if you can't even get that bit right!!

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Cellnetboy... that's a pain and I appreciate ur predicament.

Sadly us here in the community don't have magic wand (I don't mean that sarcasticly).

Thanks for the heads up tho and it may go to help others who may still be suffering.

I'm still smarting g at ur comment of it costing £250 to number port. I don't remember it being that much even back in 2002 when working for a mobile phone company at their call centre.

I hope u get it sorted soon... ps... have u tried to do a manual network search (via settings) , then going back to auto search. Sometimes that works.


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I have had no email or internet access (outside of the home when I use wifi) since Thursday. Two phone calls to o2 assured me the problem would be solved the next day, then the next and tonight I received a txt message, with new setting idata.o2.co.uk etc to fix the problem, however these where the settings already being used????!!!!

When can I use my iphone again as it should be? very very frustrayed and disappionted

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Have u tried a RESTORE on iTunes?
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Do you have an iphone data bolt on or just  a standard data bolt on?

 

If standard change the APNs to mobile.o2.co.uk otherwise idata.o2.co.uk is correct

 

Always reboot the phone after changing any settings.

 

You could also try a hard reset by holding the sleep and home buttons down until the apple logo appears.

 

Apologies if you have tried all these suggestions.

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Thanks for the tip Macblank, I'll try that right now as I have just come home from work and switched my phone on and it is still showing no signal. Worth a try... hold on... doing it now...

nope Smiley Frustrated went to manual and it showed the following networks available:

  • vodafone UK
  • T-Mobile UK
  • Orange

So I guess this was still helpful as it confirms that there is no O2 signal in my area. Just checked the Service Status page for my postcode and it still shows:

Sorry a phone mast close to you isn't working
This means you might experience problems making calls, using the internet, or sending/receiving emails in this area.
Updated 00:00 (refreshed hourly).

 

Re. porting my number over, sorry I was a not very clear in my posting, the number cost £250 to buy. To port it over cost nothing. It came on a Vodafone sim card and I ported it to Three then when I finally got fed up with them I ported it to O2 in August.

 

Cheers!

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Have u a local O2 shop? If so they may have a SIM to try just to make sure.

Ah was a special number (like a private reg plate).

Hope it's sorted soon
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Yup Macblank, it ends in 10000.

 

I think you are right, i will maybe need to take my phone to an O2 shop. I made a mistake today and took my emergency PAYG phone, that I use on holidays abroad, to work instead of my O2 phone. I should have taken the O2 one also and that way could have checked to see if it works in other areas. Defintely that case that mast for my area is out of service just now, that's three confirmed days in a row. Hopefully the situation will become clearer as the weeek progresses, especially for contract and business users.

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If u have an O2 near work u could book a guru for ur local shop at lunch or something

www.o2.co.uk/gurubooking

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Well I took my phone to work today and guess what? It worked everywhere except Largs (where I live). It turns out that when it didn't work on Friday in Warrington and Carlisle that was due to the national problem but the reason it has not been working in Largs for the last few days (and also a couple of weeks ago) is that the GSM transmitter is not working. There are two O2 masts in Largs. The GSM one:

 

Name of OperatorO2
Operator Site Ref.4416
Station TypeMacrocell
Height of Antenna13.5 Metres
Frequency Range900 MHz
Transmitter Power24.3 dBW
Maximum licensed power32 dBW
Type of TransmissionGSM

 

and the UMTS one:

 

Name of OperatorO2
Operator Site Ref.38150
Station TypeMacrocell
Height of Antenna27.6 Metres
Frequency Range2100 MHz
Transmitter Power27.5 dBW
Maximum licensed power35 dBW
Type of TransmissionUMTS

 

I am guessing that the UMTS one is working fine. As my new handset works on GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 only then the Out Of Service status of the GSM mast is what has put the kybosh on my O2 signal, i.e. none. The O2 Status website still just says:

 

Sorry a phone mast close to you isn't working
This means you might experience problems making calls, using the internet, or sending/receiving emails in this area.

Updated 02:00 (refreshed hourly)

 

Is it normal for a phone mast to be out of service for so many days in a row? There has not been any exceptional weather in this district for some time and so it is not likely to be wind damage. I remember back around early 2000 when I was on one2one and their Largs mast was blown down. It took about three days if I remember but that was after severe storms and like I say there haven't been any storms at all here recently. I am guessing O2 are hoping most Largs residents on their network have 3G handsets...?

 

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