10-07-2020 21:16
Hello,
I recenetly discovered that I had a £4.50 p/w charge on my o2 bill from Ferdamia Investments, unforunately this has been going on for at least two years, (earliest bill I can look at) I first emailed Ferdamia in April and got a reply the next day saying they would look into it for me, since then, nothing. I have sent about ten e-mails there way and no replies. I have called the telephone numbers that other users on this community have shared and the phone number listed on their website. All numbers are answered by a switchboard company who simply 'take your details' and 'pass them on' to Ferdamia who apparently will contact you in the next 24-48 hours. This however is yet to happen. I am extremely upset as you can imagine, as I estimate that they have taken approximately £600 from me over the years. This was not a service that I knowingly or willingly signed up for!
Can anybody offer any advice? I am simply at a loose end here, and every day I grow tired of e-mailing/calling them.
I have complained to the Financial Ombudsman (won't do anything as they are based in Cyrpus), PSA have replied and given me a 5 digit short code (which I have also sent to Ferdamia for reference), I also called the O2 complaints team and told them the situation. Not sure what else I can do other than what for the day that a witheld number calls me?!
Thanks for your help,
10-07-2020 21:25
Hi @Jlycett95
See community help here:
And O2 advice here…
https://www.o2.co.uk/help/account-and-billing/premium-service-checker
and this site will to help you get your money back…
You should also ring Customer Service and ask them to place the following bars on your account:
Bar all Direct to bill debits
Bar Premium rate numbers
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10-07-2020 21:26
10-07-2020 21:26
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10-07-2020 22:34
10-07-2020 22:34
10-07-2020 23:06
10-07-2020 23:06
Hopefully @Payforit_Sucks will see this post as I have tagged him. He will be able to give you more helpful advice.
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11-07-2020 08:43 - edited 11-07-2020 09:14
11-07-2020 08:43 - edited 11-07-2020 09:14
Sorry for the delay in responding to this.
I thought we had heard the last of Ferdamia Investments! As far as we know, they no longer offer any “services” in the UK.
The Ferdamia website gives some contact details for the company. Have you tried these? https://www.ferdamia.com/contact.php
As this company is based in Cyprus, and the charges span a long period, getting your money back isn’t going to be easy. It will almost certainly involve a lot of work, and make you wish you had checked your bills more regularly.
You need to gather some information:
O2 should be able to provide this. If they are uncooperative, make a Subject Access Request under GDPR.
If you haven’t already, register a complaint with PSA. The complaint should include the fact that you were charged without consent, and that the company has failed to respond to your efforts to contact them. Ask PSA when the “service” stopped operating, and check whether you were charged after that date.
Make sure that your PSA complaint reference is on all correspondence relating to this matter and that PSA receive copies of this correspondence. Although PSA are not helpful to individual consumers, the companies take things more seriously if they know PSA are involved.
Be methodical and keep all evidence of steps you have taken to reolve the matter. Record any phone calls, but try to use email instead.
Essentially there are three parties to these tranactions
Legally, the purported contract was with Ferdamia, so you should start there. However, it is possible to hold any of these parties to account if they can be shown to have been negligent (for example by failing to apply the 120 day rule or by allowing charges after the service ended). Remember that these companies usually only provide Customer Service during working hours Mon-Fri.
If you are having trouble contacting Ferdamia, it's probably worth contacting Tap2Bill and masking them to help, while making it clear that you will hold tem responsible if you are unable to secure a refund from Ferdamia.
All three parties can be sent a Letter Before Action (LBA) asking for evidence of the contract under which your money was taken. Template letters are on the Payforitsucks website. This is an essential step before you can take a case through the Small Claims system (or for Ferdamia the European Small Claims system).
As these were “Payforit” charges, they were subject to the “Payforit” rules. It might be worth asking O2 and Tap2Bill:
It costs nothing to send a LBA. Try to make sure you get an acknowledgment of receipt. If sent by email you can ask for delivery receipt and a read receipt. If you go to court it will be essential to have this proof. If you wish, we can check LBAs for you to ensure that they conform to the pre-action protocols.
If your LBAs don’t get you a refund, you will need to consider whether to take legal action, and against which party.
If you reach this point, or if you need further advice, please contact us through the payforitsucks.co.uk website.
There is also a Facebook group where you may be able to get support https://www.facebook.com/groups/psconsumers
I hope you manage to resolve this and recover your money.
Paul
11-07-2020 08:55
11-07-2020 08:55
Thanks for that Paul.
@Jlycett95 Hope that helps and you manage to get it all sorted.
Veritas Numquam Perit
15-07-2020 16:42
15-07-2020 16:42
15-07-2020 16:47
15-07-2020 16:47
Fingers crossed all goes well with the refund. Persevernce pays off. The problem is they get away with too often as people just give up. Mind you, two years + is a long time for it to go unnoticed so hats off to them agreeing to refund in full.
15-07-2020 18:31
15-07-2020 18:31
I'll just mention @Payforit_Sucks here so he will come back and see how you have got on @Jlycett95
Well done for your perseverence!
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