Unmitigated Gall

[Bambino]

Offer of a cheaper replacement? What about FREE????? 

https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/28/apple-temporarily-drops-price-of-iphone-battery-replacement-by-50-pro...

[Cleoriff]

@pgnYou have edited it back to it's original title so all's good.

It's just confusing when I have an email pop into my inbox from here with a title of a topic I thought I had never posted on....and then I click on it and it brought me here.

[gmarkj]

I hadn't noticed that the topic was not included in mobile view until this was brought up.
Out of interest what was tje erroneous topic title?

[jonsie]

I find it quite astonishing that when asked if their outrageous clandestine action would also affect iPads and MAC they refused to comment. WTH ? 

[pgn]

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@gmarkj wrote:
I hadn't noticed that the topic was not included in mobile view until this was brought up.
Out of interest what was tje erroneous topic title?

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"And people will buy them...", @gmarkj

I know, cos it was I what dunnit, m'lud 😇

[Cleoriff]

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@pgn wrote:

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@gmarkj wrote:
I hadn't noticed that the topic was not included in mobile view until this was brought up.
Out of interest what was tje erroneous topic title?

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"And people will buy them...", @gmarkj

I know, cos it was I what dunnit, m'lud 😇

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I wasn't going to mention it

[jonsie]

I'm just now totally anti - Apple, I was before but even moreso now! 

[gmarkj]

Saw over the weekend that Apple are now offering to replace batteries for people that want them.
At a discounted rate of only $29!!!

[Cleoriff]

I don't get this business about new batteries for older phones.  Yes, you won't have to charge them as much but surely the slowing down is more to do with older phones not getting the latest updates? Perhaps I am just being a bit dim?

[gmarkj]

Apple, in their infinite wisdom, decided for customers that battery life is more important than phone performance. (Part of this is down to the shut down issue that some were having despite the battery reporting some charge left.)
So in one of the latest updates they have slowed down some older models. No warning to customers, no opt in or out, just part of a software update.
They have since apologised, and offered the battery change as part of said apology.
If the battery is changed and registers as newer (somehow - manufacture date, number of cycles? Not sure) then the slow down is ignored.

Edited to add links to news stories covering this:

1 - https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/28/apple-apologizes-for-not-being-clearer-about-slowing-down-iphones-...

2 - https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/28/16827248/apple-iphone-battery-replacement-price-slow-down-apolog...

[Bydandie]

I must admit that I’m finding the hyperbole over this quite staggering.

Apple have ran two free swap out programmes after unexpected shut downs, and then found that the reason for the shutdowns was that the processor was asking for more power than aged batteries could deliver.  They then made a decision to ensure that a processor wouldn’t ask for more power than was possible, but didn’t inform the public that they were doing this (stupidly IMHO).

The whole planned obsolescence rhetoric is quite simply nonsense, my daughter is running iOS 11 on a 5s quite happily (which I changed the battery on for £20 early last year).  If the planned obsolescence conspiracy was correct, then she’d have a dog slow device.

We really do need to get some perspective here, most iOS devices are supported for 4 years in terms of iOS updates.  LiON battery tech is one that delivers a degraded charge no matter what handset manufacturer provides it.  

The issue is that most Android handset don’t get updates for more than 18 months (Samsung S5 or S6 isn’t Oreo) so they arguably don’t see increased features asking for more juice.  So, there is no planned obsolescence; merely a requirement to pay for a battery upgrade (which was £58 beforehand) to get the full performance back for a 4 year old device, which is getting current iOS updates.  Now, you might argue that you can already swap out your battery in an Android device, but that has never been for free has it?

For the sake of any doubt, whilst I use iDevices I have used Windows Mobile devices until last year and still flit between Windows 10 and OSX.  I use what works for me, and have no brand loyalty.