on 30-09-2011 12:38
on 30-09-2011 12:38
on 02-06-2013 19:30
Just a little something else for everyone to be concerned about.
I've just also found out that somebody has set-up a fraudulent DD on my bank account, and would you believe it.........it's the same account that my o2 payment is taken from.
Never had any problems before my o2 account was hacked.
The bank are investigating at the moment, I’ve asked the question how can somebody do this without me signing a mandate form.
Not surprisingly they don’t have one.
on 02-06-2013 19:33
You can sign up for direct debits online without signing any forms which is a bit stupid I agree
on 02-06-2013 19:51
on 02-06-2013 19:51
on 02-06-2013 20:28
on 02-06-2013 20:28
People rarely sign DD forms anymore, have you been to the police yet as this is clearly identity fraud?
on 02-06-2013 22:23
@Liquid wrote:
What bank are you with?
Something is wrong here. It really should be remedied.
Out of interest did you use live chat or 202 shortly before you "ordered" a new phone?
Rather not say what bank.
No, I'd not used live chat or 202 before the initial scam. The bank have already cancelled the DD's, I'm waiting for an explanation on how it happened.
on 02-06-2013 22:26
@perksie wrote:People rarely sign DD forms anymore, have you been to the police yet as this is clearly identity fraud?
I've not been to the police yet, I was kind of hoping that getting my contract returned to normal would be the end of it. I'll wait and see what the bank says first, then decide.
on 02-06-2013 22:41
on 02-06-2013 22:41
on 03-06-2013 08:14
@Liquid wrote:
Sorry good point in retrospect it was a stupid question.
I'm with Halifax for one of my accounts and they require two step authentication on all DD (presuming its not already set up). I presumed all banks were like that.
Well rules out my conspiracy theory then :D.
Hope you get your result soon.
Thanks, the sooner I get this sorry mess over and done with the better.
03-06-2013 12:29 - edited 03-06-2013 12:30
A modification to Direct Debit (such as the amount to be paid) does not need authorisation from the account owner.
In the case of 'Soobster' - I suspect that the fraudulent activity was that they had signed up for a new contract and (as is pretty standard across all carriers) the O2 rep asked "do you want me to setup this new account using the old bank details?" - Given this question usually comes after passing account security, it's a perfectly reasonable question IMO. If yes, the existing Direct Debit is edited, and the bank doesn't require authorisation from the account holder for this type of edit.
Only in this case, the account was being setup by a fraudster, so the assumption of permission to change banking details isn't valid.
Somewhat concerning though that every case I've read about (specific to O2, but not specific to this thread) has been a customer who's contract is up for renewal. This points to a pretty significant "data leak" somewhere, in my opinion. O2 are surely aware of it from their own Fraud team (you'd hope), but very little seems to (publicly) be getting done about it.
03-06-2013 14:15 - edited 03-06-2013 14:29
03-06-2013 14:15 - edited 03-06-2013 14:29
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