05-04-2018 09:44 - edited 05-04-2018 09:45
05-04-2018 09:44 - edited 05-04-2018 09:45
We're proud to announce our £500M+ investment in the latest spectrum auction. That’s what powers a network, and ours is about to get even better. How, exactly? Our spectrum acquisition means more 4G for you as well as being 5G ready for the future, and help boost connectivity in the UK.
Welcome to a new Mobile Britain. See our full press release here.
on 08-04-2018 12:10
on 08-04-2018 12:10
I expect it's a wait and see scenario then. I just hope O2 listen to their customers and are fair to all
Veritas Numquam Perit
on 08-04-2018 12:53
on 08-04-2018 12:53
From the press release in first post
“O2 will initially utilise its 2.3GHz spectrum in London, with other UK cities to follow in the coming months, including Edinburgh, Newcastle and Leeds.”
on 08-04-2018 14:20
on 08-04-2018 14:20
@adamtemp64wrote:From the press release in first post
“O2 will initially utilise its 2.3GHz spectrum in London, with other UK cities to follow in the coming months, including Edinburgh, Newcastle and Leeds.”
Yes I read that in the opening statement Adam, which shows they aren't listening to a lot of customers complaints.. Hopefully they will 'have a bit left' over for Manchester
Veritas Numquam Perit
on 08-04-2018 14:49
on 08-04-2018 14:49
@adamtemp64wrote:From the press release in first post
“O2 will initially utilise its 2.3GHz spectrum in London, with other UK cities to follow in the coming months, including Edinburgh, Newcastle and Leeds.”
As I said before Manchester was way down the list for 4G. Waiting.....
on 09-04-2018 20:44
Network build out/upgrade programmes always start in the cities for one main reason, Business customers.
I'm not for one moment saying Consumers aren't important but Businesses tend to spend far more than a Consumer does by taking packages with more minutes, having more connections and also purchasing other services such as landlines or a leased line(s) (fibre or copper nased EFM) from that provider to reduce the administrative burden by having one bill.
This is an approach operators have also been trying to adopt with consumers.
Cities tend to have more large Businesses or branch offices of large multinational Corporates so they get the coverage right there first and then extend it out.
Can be annoying but that is why and if you think about it, it does make sense.
on 10-04-2018 00:04
on 10-04-2018 00:04
But we know not in which order the cities will be upgraded after London....
10-04-2018 09:40 - edited 10-04-2018 09:40
@Anonymouswrote:Network build out/upgrade programmes always start in the cities for one main reason, Business customers.
I'm not for one moment saying Consumers aren't important but Businesses tend to spend far more than a Consumer does by taking packages with more minutes, having more connections and also purchasing other services such as landlines or a leased line(s) (fibre or copper nased EFM) from that provider to reduce the administrative burden by having one bill.
This is an approach operators have also been trying to adopt with consumers.
Cities tend to have more large Businesses or branch offices of large multinational Corporates so they get the coverage right there first and then extend it out.
Can be annoying but that is why and if you think about it, it does make sense.
But if one company, just one.. filled in the 2% that don’t have any coverage.. just think of how much custom they’d get.. people would flock..
So yeah businesses might want it but if these mobile companies weren’t so shortsighted they could scoop up a big portion of a previously untapped source!
10-04-2018 18:33 - edited 10-04-2018 18:53
10-04-2018 18:33 - edited 10-04-2018 18:53
@Anonymous The 2% is not 2% of the UK land mass but very rural postcodes with few residents in as per the ofcom calculation method so 98% is the more densely populated postcodes (not land mass) with many people living there .
Full ofcom methodology here https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0026/58292/4gcov-verification.pdf Updated version here https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/108209/4g-coverage-methodology.pdf
Also ofcom confirmation here https://www.ofcom.org.uk/spectrum/information/cellular-coverage
on 10-04-2018 19:19
on 10-04-2018 20:23
@Anonymouswrote:
So 2% of the population who live in rural areas who aren’t covered, could be...
I make that 1,329,713 potential customers who would rave about a company that was willing to shell out for the infrastructure & give them a mobile service..
This in turn could/would make the area more attractive to future residents, businesses and holidaymakers.
What’s that old adage.. speculate to accumulate?
@Anonymous
Provided the local populace signed up to long term contracts so the operator could be a sure of a return on it's investment.
If they all said yes please and the majority signed up to PAYG or one month SIM only the risk of making a loss would be quite high as they have to run services such as a fibre leased line (which can cost thousands in civil engineering costs alone) if there is no line of sight for a microwave link to a macrocell or mobile exchange isn't feasible.
In the areas you speak of broadband coverage also tends to be bad or non existent, I'm not convinced that mobile is the solution to these 'not spots' as the government (and to a certain extent the industry) seem to believe.
I've been interested in the technology for a number of years and it seems to go through the same cycle:
Of course managing a mobile network is harder than fixed as the users move around, but I do wish they'd under promise and over deliver, don't you?