20-01-2017 17:04 - edited 20-01-2017 17:05
20-01-2017 17:04 - edited 20-01-2017 17:05
Just watched the inauguration - It's now official, watch out 
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/20/510629447/watch-live-president-trumps-inauguration-ceremony
on 01-02-2017 09:05
on 01-02-2017 09:05
A well thought out comment and I agree with everything you say. The problem is that Trump hurtled headlong into this and gave his detractors the perfect excuse to lobby and protest against his policies whilst quite probably agreeing with him in private. Every politician and everyone in the public eye will use any means possible to further their own profile and this is the world we now find ourselves shaking our heads at.
on 01-02-2017 09:23
on 01-02-2017 09:23
Bill Clinton made that speech 22 years ago....so I get your point
I agree with what you say above... regarding the people marching in protest. I would hope they all know what they are marching about. Somehow I doubt it. A lot of it is crowd mentality. (one person throws a bottle...a lot more start throwing bottles)
I totally agree with your comment about Aleppo. I didn't see anyone marching in protest at that atrocity
A member of my family signed the petition to stop Trump coming to Britain for a State visit. Why did he sign it? It was easy to do so online. Yet he agreed the Queen had entertained far worse in the past.
I am not a supporter of Donald Trump at all...but I do wonder at this world wide outrage he is causing...
Veritas Numquam Perit
on 01-02-2017 13:56
on 01-02-2017 14:03
on 01-02-2017 14:03
With my nursing head on Trump did something good yesterday
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38819204
He told the pharmaceutical executives to cut prices of drugs. I wish someone would take the same sort of stance in the UK
Veritas Numquam Perit
on 01-02-2017 14:19
on 01-02-2017 14:25
on 01-02-2017 15:17
on 01-02-2017 19:44
Regrettably Trump and his team have little or no political experience, so the pronouncements they make are without thought as to the knock on effect.
The ban on travel hit people with valid dual nationality and with green cards. It caught long established Americans visiting family back home, including some who had fought for America. That is I feel why it caught the public protest. However, It targeted an old list created for a different reason that he blamed on Obama. The ban didn't take account of the fact that Nationals of the seven countries singled out by Trump have killed zero people in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and 2015
I worry for the unforeseen impacts of his other pronouncements. I worry that the people of Germany or Italy or Russia felt this way between the wars, where in each case a bully removed (initially not lethally) those who felt other than him.
Sadly as pointed out, this travel ban is as of nought compared to other atrocities being enacted on a daily basis. I would add to Viridis' list. FGM is happening NOW in the UK. Modern slavery is happening NOW. Women are treated as second or even lower class by churches, mosques, businesses... Lèse majesté is in effect in Thailand, and you will be imprisoned if you defame the king. In 2015, a man was sentenced for a "sarcastic" comment online about the King's dog! But unless these grab attention of the press or social media, and cascade, they come up in a news broadcast occasionally then go away. Hating Trump or fearing his impact is quite popular, and I admit to it.
Trump is a master at getting attention, and at diverting attention. He is a spoiled child who needs attention. His staff (pre-Presidential era) were afraid to contradict him, from what I have read. Even journalists are scared to contradict him.. At golf, on a cheaters scale of 1-10, he was an eleven. He also needs people to love him - the ones who voted for him still do, as numerous interviews have shown. He will say and do things until he is stopped, hopefully by the two houses of Congress. I can't see his nominee for the vacant supreme court judge (the vacancy that Republicans wouldn't allow to be appointed since February under Obama) slowing him down.
Oh dear, I've ranted.
01-02-2017 20:15 - edited 01-02-2017 20:19
01-02-2017 20:15 - edited 01-02-2017 20:19
No worries about ranting @Fellwalker we have all done the same on this thread.....
I was about to mention FGM which is custom and practice in some countriea and goes on here as you say
I have seen no females marching in protest about that....
Re the travel ban...he relented a little last night and allowed 800 into the country
He has just appointed a new Secretary of State http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38835462
One of the major worrying problems is Trump acts first...and thinks after..
Veritas Numquam Perit
on 01-02-2017 20:39
on 01-02-2017 20:39
800? He said only 109.
“Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning.”
— President Trump, tweet, Jan, 30, 2017
http://news.sky.com/story/donald-trumps-travel-ban-fact-checked-how-the-claims-measure-up-10749909
Tillerson is #24 in the Forbes influential list for 2016. He has close ties to Putin.
The New York Times says of his appointment: "But his views on international affairs are in many ways more conventional than those of Mr. Trump, which is why even Democratic-leaning foreign affairs experts said they welcomed his selection in hopes he would bring ballast to a turbulent administration."
A Time magazine article asserts that since Tillerson announced ExxonMobil's preference for a carbon tax, the giant oil company "has not made a carbon tax a focus of its massive lobbying efforts and has supported a number of candidates and organizations that oppose measures to tackle the [climate change] issue."
Are you sure he thinks? Obviously, except about himself.