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Discussions about O2 and age verification

Anonymous
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Just received a text from TPTB saying I need to confirm I'm over 18 to view adult material. Until then, it'll remain blocked on my phone. I don't have a credit card so I'll need to do this in store. Just wondering, I have no particular desire to view pornographic material or register to flirt websites on my phone but if I don't have this ban lifted, will it affect my general day-to-day browsing in any way? Otherwise, I won't bother.
Secondly, when did this come about? Never needed to confirm my age in the past. And why couldn't they have sorted this in store when I bought the phone?
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Anonymous
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Hi.
I was just wondering the same as someone else above.
Does this constitute enough of a change in service to satisfy a complaint of breach of contract?
As in, yesterday I didn't have to verify who, or how old I am and today I do.
I am unwilling point blank to use any card to prove my age (I'm a baby faced 32 btw) as this has been shown already. And I am unwilling to spend my time/money traveling to an O2 store (who at various times have told me that they were unable to help me because I signed up for the contract online and not in store anyway).
I saw someone else say they called a number and had it removed but again, why should I be spending time chasing them to unlock a service that they changed and I was previously perfectly happy with but am now not.
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Anonymous
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Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but the Adult Links on O2 Active display a lot a flesh which I thought this system was designed to stop. It can't be because someone makes money on the Videos you download.
I argee with other comments, they know who I am, why do I need to verify it. A child could do it with a credit card. It's only a quid so likely to be paid by the CC provider, you may not notice for 30 days or so that it's gone though.
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Anonymous
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I have just tweeted to @O2 as advised at viewtopic.php?p=332669#p332669 asking them to unblock Google Translate. Fingers crossed... I'm still too afraid to give my credit card details to bango.net, and there's no O2 shop in my town. If this doesn't work, I may try calling 2302.
(I haven't tried calling 2302 yet because it's a bit troublesome, as mine is O2 mobile 'broadband', not mobile 'phone', and it would require me to take the SIM card out of the mobile broadband dangle (so lose Internet connection for a while), take the SIM card out of my mobile phone too (so lose phone connection for a while too), and then put the mobile broadband SIM card into my mobile phone to make the call)...)
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Anonymous
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Don't know if anyone else is using Opera mini, but I started using it a couple of years ago because 1) the imbedded o2 branded browser on my c702 was ridiculously slooooow and 2)because the imbedded browser was age restricted and I couldn't be bothered to pay for age verification or go to the "local"(10 miles away) shop. I have never had a problem with Opera, it is fast, stable and slick and I can access whatever sites I choose. The only downside to it is there is no predictive text input that I can find, so you have to multipress to get correct letter. No big deal though, eh?
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Anonymous
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I have just tweeted to @O2 as advised at viewtopic.php?p=332669#p332669 asking them to unblock Google Translate. Fingers crossed... I'm still too afraid to give my credit card details to bango.net, and there's no O2 shop in my town. If this doesn't work, I may try calling 2302.
(I haven't tried calling 2302 yet because it's a bit troublesome, as mine is O2 mobile 'broadband', not mobile 'phone', and it would require me to take the SIM card out of the mobile broadband dangle (so lose Internet connection for a while), take the SIM card out of my mobile phone too (so lose phone connection for a while too), and then put the mobile broadband SIM card into my mobile phone to make the call)...)

Hi maggiems
You won't be able to make calls using your mobile broadband SIM - all you'll need to do is have the mobile broadband number handy when you call customer service. To find the number, select Tools > Help > About from the O2 Connection Manager software.
Thanks
Chris
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Anonymous
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Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but the Adult Links on O2 Active display a lot a flesh which I thought this system was designed to stop. It can't be because someone makes money on the Videos you download.
I argee with other comments, they know who I am, why do I need to verify it. A child could do it with a credit card. It's only a quid so likely to be paid by the CC provider, you may not notice for 30 days or so that it's gone though.

Hi kebabselector
Thanks for flagging the O2 Active site, we're looking into that now.
You're absolutely right - we know the name and date of birth of the account holder, but that's not necessarily who's using the phone.
Many parents get contract phones for their kids to use, but would most likely be unhappy if those kids used their credit card - for any amount or reason - without their knowledge. This is why we charge the £1, it will appear on the cardholder's statement, alerting them to the transaction and clearly describing what it was for.
Of course, we can't force people to check their credit card statements, but we have to make every available effort to ensure that the verification process isn't abused by youngsters looking to bypass it without their parents' knowledge.
To make sure customers aren't out of pocket as a result of this transaction, we add £2.50 to their Pay & Go credit, or deduct it from the next Pay Monthly bill.
Thanks
Chris
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Anonymous
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I have just tweeted to @O2 as advised at viewtopic.php?p=332669#p332669 asking them to unblock Google Translate. Fingers crossed... I'm still too afraid to give my credit card details to bango.net, and there's no O2 shop in my town. If this doesn't work, I may try calling 2302.
(I haven't tried calling 2302 yet because it's a bit troublesome, as mine is O2 mobile 'broadband', not mobile 'phone', and it would require me to take the SIM card out of the mobile broadband dangle (so lose Internet connection for a while), take the SIM card out of my mobile phone too (so lose phone connection for a while too), and then put the mobile broadband SIM card into my mobile phone to make the call)...)

Hi maggiems
You won't be able to make calls using your mobile broadband SIM - all you'll need to do is have the mobile broadband number handy when you call customer service. To find the number, select Tools > Help > About from the O2 Connection Manager software.
Thanks
Chris

Dear Chris, thanks for your reply...
I don't have a landline phone at home, only in my office, and whenever I call the customer services it takes VERY LONG to be picked up indeed. I'll try the week after next when I will have time, but ... could you just unblock Google Translate then!? Thank you......
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Anonymous
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I just called and customer services let me remove the restrictions without paying the £1 fee to Bango.
As for the sufficient changes to service question above - I don't think it would be enough to justify a breach of contract but maybe.
The applicable terms would be in my opinion:
paragraph 8.4 (right to cancel free of charge if any breach of contract causes significant disadvantage
paragraph 10.1 - no third parties allowed to benefit from the agreement (i.e. Bango benefiting)
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Anonymous
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Complaints were made about Google Translate being flagged by O2's age restriction software back in November of last year! I'm BAFFLED it's been 4 months and nothing's been done about this!
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Anonymous
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Complaints were made about Google Translate being flagged by O2's age restriction software back in November of last year! I'm BAFFLED it's been 4 months and nothing's been done about this!

The supposed reason given by most filtering services for blocking google translate is that it can be used to translate any URL, thus potentially functioning as a proxy to access all the terribad pr0n that might mentally scar the little darlings who're intentionally going to great lengths to see it.
The huge logic fail here though is that plenty of dedicated browsing proxies that have been operating for years and whose' sole purpose is providing proxied access to content, are not blocked by O2/Bango. Even more obviously, is the fact that neither google's cache, nor the wayback machine's, nor any other major webcaches are blocked.
So ultimately, O2's filter results in blocking a useful translation service because it may be used as a browsing proxy, but not bothering to block dedicated browsing proxies that serve no other purpose, or webcaches that can serve as proxies to view any (albeit cached) content.
Mabye, O2, you could apply a modicum of logic to yours/Bango's filtering rulesets and think that one through?
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