Boris Johnson to be New PM

[Cleoriff]

Boris Johnson has been voted as the new leader of the Conservative party. He won by double the votes  from Jeremy Hunt

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49084605

[Anonymous]

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@Cleoriff wrote:

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I've had that paper this morning and it says it all. In fact BBC news showed all the front pages of most newspapers today and they all said pretty much the same.

That being so, it does make you wonder what the outcome would have been if the country had been allowed a vote and not just the Conservatives??

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To be fair, no one voted for Gordon Brown 

That said, we shouldn't be surprised if there's an early general election. Unfortunately, neither of the two main parties are worth voting for. Just read the first response by Labour peer Andrew Adonis to this tweet:

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1154004676242739200

[Glory1]

Couldn't agree more @Anonymous. in fact, there is no one in any of the parties worth voting for. They're all pretty much useless 

[Glory1]

Well I expect, and certainly hope, @Cleoriff Boris wouldn't be in No 10. Though who would be is the real question. Corbyn, pretty much useless and we don't want whatever that UKIP party now call themselves either. So what choice is there?!

[Cleoriff]

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@Glory1 wrote:

Well I expect, and certainly hope, @Cleoriff Boris wouldn't be in No 10. Though who would be is the real question. Corbyn, pretty much useless and we don't want whatever that UKIP party now call themselves either. So what choice is there?!

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There was no other choice @Glory1  except Jeremy Hunt.

I know no-one voted for Gordon Brown @Anonymous , there again Theresa May picked up the poisoned chalice when David Cameron ran away after the referendum. She was only voted for by the Conservatives.

I've just watched the news and apparently Boris is performing the most radical cabinet reshuffle ever seen for a long time.

[Glory1]

Jeremy Hunt equally as bad @Cleoriff. That's the problem at the moment, there is no one to vote for in any party, not just the 2 main ones.

I can't see anyone that would make a good PM, can you?

[Cleoriff]

I wouldn't have wanted Jeremy Hunt anyway. He all but brought the NHS to it's knees during his tenure. I have never seen so many strikes which he caused with his changes to the junior doctors working hours.

So no, I can't think of anyone I would like to see as PM, from any party...

[sheepdog]

Next election, we're looking at a coalition government again.

Which will be the worst of all scenarios this time as with whatever coalition party gets in, it will demand something quite critical with no clear leader. 

Labour - who on past elections are actually losing votes so will likely have less seats - will need to join up with the SNP and still not get a working majority. Say they will, then the SNP will force another Scottish referendum as part of their support and guaranteed within a couple of years, another general election may be forced on us due to votes of no-confidence. Assuming the SNP don't lose seats like the last election. 

Which leaves the LibDems as possible power brokers and can you realistically see them trying to power share with Labour + SNP? Thats assuming they can actually get more seats this time after being effectively wiped out in 2015. Then there's the dark horse of the moment, The Brexit Party and I suspect a load more independents being voted in. Don't underestimate the protest vote because they will attract large numbers as UKIP did in 2015 (which actually got the 3rd largest number of votes - look at the results table). That demographic is what all the mainstream parties will be targeting now because they know how damaging it is to them given the polarisation of Brexit. 

As for the Conservatives, well thats up to them to actually deliver on the 31st Oct on whether they want to exist post-general election but again, how many seats they'll lose is another matter pending Boris's performance till then. 

BTW: I'm not voting for any of them. I'm bringing a black marker pen and voting none. 

[TallTrees]

Well that is not only damming but disturbing and worse true @sheepdog 

We are entering very turbulent times.

It is also the trend in voting across the European countries.  Trying to find that NOBLE politician or leader or political party, seemingly difficult and impossible. 

[Anonymous]

More info

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@sheepdog wrote:

Next election, we're looking at a coalition government again.

Which will be the worst of all scenarios this time as with whatever coalition party gets in, it will demand something quite critical with no clear leader. 

Labour - who on past elections are actually losing votes so will likely have less seats - will need to join up with the SNP and still not get a working majority. Say they will, then the SNP will force another Scottish referendum as part of their support and guaranteed within a couple of years, another general election may be forced on us due to votes of no-confidence. Assuming the SNP don't lose seats like the last election. 

Which leaves the LibDems as possible power brokers and can you realistically see them trying to power share with Labour + SNP? Thats assuming they can actually get more seats this time after being effectively wiped out in 2015. Then there's the dark horse of the moment, The Brexit Party and I suspect a load more independents being voted in. Don't underestimate the protest vote because they will attract large numbers as UKIP did in 2015 (which actually got the 3rd largest number of votes - look at the results table). That demographic is what all the mainstream parties will be targeting now because they know how damaging it is to them given the polarisation of Brexit. 

As for the Conservatives, well thats up to them to actually deliver on the 31st Oct on whether they want to exist post-general election but again, how many seats they'll lose is another matter pending Boris's performance till then. 

BTW: I'm not voting for any of them. I'm bringing a black marker pen and voting none. 

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This isn’t my own analysis, I’m just picking up on some observations that I’ve heard from political commentators. Boris Johnson’s inaugural speech as Prime Minister suggests that he’s still in campaign mode, and his appointment of Dominic Cummings as one of his senior advisers is quite telling, because that was the man who successfully orchestrated the Vote Leave campaign. 

Consider this possible scenario: Boris Johnson fails to convince the EU to reopen the negotiations, he can then declare (with a heavy heart :smileywink:) that Brussels have forced his hand, and he has no option but to leave without a deal. But parliament are successful in blocking such a move, leading to the inevitable general election. His campaign would be based on the belief that the political elite are still trying to overturn the will of the people, and that parliament needs to be changed in order to allow him to finish the job. Sound familiar?

If Brexit is still the central issue in a general election, then you couldn’t rule out an alliance between the two parties who are most committed to leaving the EU. 

[JAZZ-trad]

yes @Anonymous  

Sounding all too familiar and the Public/businesses etc.

have had to put up with all the parties shenanigans 

of one thing or another (they had swords out in the old days!)

all vying for position.

Parliament should be considering the well-being

of the UK.