08-11-2019 23:39
08-11-2019 23:39
Hey guys....
As it's already 9th november here, it's the day that marks 30 years since the Berlin wall fell.
It's one of THE points in German history.
Was it big in the news in UK too? My mom always told me she knew exactly what she did back then... She even woke my dad up (as he was sleeping as he had early shift next morning) and that I was sleeping (I was only a few months old).
Cheers!
09-11-2019 01:01
09-11-2019 08:40
09-11-2019 08:40
09-11-2019 09:46
09-11-2019 09:46
I was about when construction started in 1961. Overjoyed when the wall reopened (or fell) in 1989.
It was a pivotal event in world history.
Apparently it never should have been re-opened but for a mistake. A press conference was being held to announce the easing of travel regulations from East to West.
When the press asked the question 'when would these regulations come into effect', the minister dealing with the press had no idea and said, errrmm I think from now? (That's a simplistic explanation but quite factual.)
The rest as they say, is history.
According to this BBC report, East and West Germany was re-unified by music (or 'illegal raves')
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49892553
Veritas Numquam Perit
09-11-2019 15:16
09-11-2019 15:16
Thats how I remember the lead up - the travel restrictions not only from East Germany but other communist countries just stopped bothering with the checks. Memories of the mass car parks at the border waiting for the clearance to proceed was another one of those moments in history.
But no, to some the actual event will only be remembered incorrectly by this particular unique phenonomen:
and a recent interview with him about it here
09-11-2019 18:18
09-11-2019 18:18
Mmmm. Yes. I'm sure he was responsible for the wall coming down
I'd rather watch the Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) concert about the wall. (which was bloody brilliant)
Veritas Numquam Perit
10-11-2019 01:04 - edited 10-11-2019 01:04
10-11-2019 01:04 - edited 10-11-2019 01:04
Sure, who else as the Hoff is resposible XD That's why German's have a weird relation to him ^^
A collegue of my best friend fled just 3 days before the wall was opened.
And yes, it was by accident - but as Bob Ross always said "happy little accidents".
What's sad: It's still not real unity after 30 years. Poor East, "rich" West. We still pay a "solidarity tax" (everyone upon his wage)....
10-11-2019 17:25 - edited 10-11-2019 17:25
The consequences of 'strong'/populist leaders.
The alarming thing is they seem to be on the rise again, let's hope common sense prevails before it gets out of control.
On a lighter note, always wanted to go to Germany, my Secondary School had an exchange relationship with a school in (carefully checks spelling) Traben-Trarbach but my folks wouldn't sign the consent letter as they were concerned about my being so far away etc.
I studied German for GCSE (I know you asked in another thread what it was equivalent to but I've no idea) but I do intend to undertake a European road trip at some point (here's hoping you don't greet us Brits with a burning pitchfork by then as you are so fed up with that B word )
11-11-2019 13:32
11-11-2019 13:32
I remember it was massive news at the time, but it's somewhat sad that after all the early optimism, we still seem to have an East-West divide today.
One of my favourite films about that subject is Good Bye Lenin! It's a comedy that dispels the myth that the Germans don't have a sense of humour
For a more serious study about life in the GDR, "The Lives of Others" is well worth watching.