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Sky To Link Up With o2 as MVNO?

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Reported by the Financial Times today. Have posted in full as you would need to register to read it so have not posted a link.

Sky has approached Telefónica about a possible alliance with the Spanish telecoms group’s British mobile phone business, a move that would push the satellite group into the rapidly reshaping European mobile market for the first time.

The talks come as Sky’s major rival BT negotiates the acquisition of mobile operator EE, having decided against acquiring Telefónica’s O2. After that deal closes, Sky will be the only major UK broadband provider that does not also offer mobile phone contracts.

Sky and Telefónica have been talking since late 2014, said two people familiar with the situation, although one added that the discussions have been happening alongside similar ones between Telefónica and Hutchison Whampoa of Hong Kong about combining their British mobile operations.

Hutchison Whampoa, which owns the Three network, indicated to Telefónica that it could offer more than £9bn for O2 UK before Christmas, according to two people with knowledge of the situation, although both added that the talks did not progress. Sky, Hutchison Whampoa and Telefónica declined to comment.

Some analysts say Telefónica should get out of the British mobile market, and another option would be a deal with rival mobile and TV provider TalkTalk, said one person familiar with the situation. “In the medium term O2 UK on a standalone basis will struggle to compete with integrated players,” wrote analysts at Espirito Santo.

Sky is unlikely to acquire O2, according to a person familiar with the situation. The pay-TV company currently has net debt of more than three times its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation following a £7bn European expansion.

Instead, its offer could be based around a broader partnership, combining O2’s mobile service and customer base with Sky’s pay-TV content, broadband and fixed-line telephony. In March 2014 Sky paid £200m for O2’s fixed line and broadband business, covering about 500,000 customers. Analysts have also speculated that a deal could involve the exchange of shares rather than cash, which would give Telefónica a stake in the combined business.

However, Nomura analysts said Sky’s “preferred response” would be a mobile virtual network operator agreement — or MVNO — where the pay-TV company could resell O2’s phone access.

Sky’s management has consistently argued there is little evidence that consumers want to purchase mobile phone contracts together with household broadband and pay-TV. Such bundles have, however, gained market share in Spain, where low prices have lured consumers.

The talks come as Sky is gearing up for battle against BT for the UK rights to broadcast Premier League football. Sky has built its leading market position in the UK by having access to premium content, including football, which analysts described as the “jewel in the crown” of the company.

But that position has been under threat from BT’s move into broadcasting Premier League games and could further be challenged if BT has a mobile platform to stream the games.
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That is an interesting development, and I'm surprised it hasn't generated any further discussion on here. According to this report in the Telegraph, Vodafone are also in contention for a partnership with Sky, so it looks as if they're serious about moving into the mobile market.

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@Anonymous wrote:

That is an interesting development, and I'm surprised it hasn't generated any further discussion on here.

Hi @Anonymous    Could that lack of interest possibly have anything to do with the fact that you are described as an "Apprentice" and the OP as a "Firestarter" -  hardly designations to inspire confidence in those who might otherwise want to take an interest!   But as usual I am taking the topic OT ( sorry! ok, ok I am rapping my own knuckles, but when will anyone take this matter seriously?)

 

 

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@Anonymous I don't know why this kind of subject hasn't sparked any further discussion, as over on giffgaff's forums they can't get enough of it Smiley Indifferent 

 

As far as ranks are concerned, it's just a gamification strategy to encourage involvement in the community. Clearly it doesn't always have the desired effect, and for what it's worth, giffgaff have had some rather heated discussions of their own on this subject. There was a particularly heated debate over the use of the rank "Prophet" because of the religious connotations attached to it. And the most recent objections have been raised about the rank "I know where you live", because some people (particularly newcomers who were seeking help) found it to be a little creepy.

 

I've no strong feelings either way, but I've learned to respect the fact that some people can be sensitive about such issues. So it's probably best not to go there wink

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Yep. I too was surprised at the lack of conversation on this one.
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@Anonymous wrote:
Yep. I too was surprised at the lack of conversation on this one.

To be honest @Anonymous and @Anonymous   I don't understand enough about the ramifications of " reshaping European mobile market" to amke any sensible contribution.  Perhaps the subject matter is too specialised and too nebulous for discussion.  What would it mean in terms of day to day experience for O2 users such as myself who love using their mobile phones to the greatest extent that their basic knowledge allows?  And - what would it mean in terms of the effect on my wallet?

 

(PS  Sorry for nearly hi-jacking what is obviously a potentially important topic by my reference to  Member designations.)  

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Thanks @Anonymous      Love that word "gamification"  - had not come across that one before.  Into my little black book it goes.   Interesting insight as regards Giffgaff debate on the subject of designations.

 

 

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Could you also add the correct designation of "giffgaff" ?
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@MI5 wrote:
Could you also add the correct designation of "giffgaff" ?

A common error....

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