Brexit: No-deal opponents defeat government

[Cleoriff]

Tory rebels and opposition MPs have defeated the government in the first stage of their attempt to pass a law designed to prevent a no-deal Brexit.

The Commons voted 328 to 301 to take control of the agenda, meaning they can bring forward a bill seeking to delay the UK's exit date.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49573555

Boris Johnson responded by saying he would bring forward a motion for a general election.

And so the saga continues

[Cleoriff]

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@Anonymous wrote:

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@Cleoriff wrote:

Ryanair never flew directly into Paris anyway. I thought they had already done their haggling with said French farmer..

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@Cleoriff 

But just like Boris, they think they can get a better deal

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[jonsie]

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@Cleoriff wrote:

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@Anonymous wrote:

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@Cleoriff wrote:

Ryanair never flew directly into Paris anyway. I thought they had already done their haggling with said French farmer..

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@Cleoriff 

But just like Boris, they think they can get a better deal

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but need a complete roll over by the farmer!

[pgn]

And another resigns, Amber Rudd departs the Conservatives, leaving Boris 45 shy of a majority...

It's crazy.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/amber-rudd-resigns-from-cabinet-and-surrenders-cons...

[jonsie]

But can someone explain to me why Mr Blobby Jo was seen as a good choice of prime minister by the Tories in the first place?

He was well known as a bit of a joke well before this latest crisis.

[Cleoriff]

The loss of Amber Rudd is a severe blow for Boris the clown. To resign on a point of principle due to his sacking of 21 who voted against him shows real guts I think

[jonsie]

Yes it did and I respect her all the more for doing it on such a point of principal. It's not so much that she resigned but actually left the party altogether which is like a dagger to the heart of the Conservatives.

[sheepdog]

Not sure why she was kept on as a minister considering pratically nobody else was after TM left. Only reason I can think of is that nobody really wants to be DWP minister due to the universal credit fiasco and at some point she would have been sacked regardless or resigned again. Actually she can't have been that polictically short-sighted not to see that one coming can she? Then again she knew Boris's position on Brexit well in advance so if its a point of principle, why accept staying in the cabinet? Actually why did Teresa May bring her back when she resigned before for lying? Or am I confusing morals and scruples with political ambition?

[TallTrees]

Well I like your final thoughts @sheepdog
The are no morals, scruples and there certainly isn't any NOBILITY. Money and position "talk" in the house.
Amber Rudd comes from a wealthy and titled back-ground. Position will be her ambition. Leaving a sinking (or stinking ?) ship comes to mind. It is unlikely she will redeem herself generally, "a blotted and murky copy book"
A few votes in her constituency possibly as an independent, well! grasp at any straws😎

[Cleoriff]

Another blow for Boris. A panel of Scottish judges have ruled his closure of Parliament was illegal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

Mr Johnson has previously insisted that it was normal practice for a new government to prorogue Parliament, and that it was "nonsense" to suggest he was attempting to undermine democracy.

But the Court of Session judges said they were unanimous in their belief that Mr Johnson was motivated by the "improper purpose of stymieing Parliament", and that he had therefore effectively misled the Queen in advising her to suspend Parliament.

The BBC's assistant political editor, Norman Smith, said it was quite likely that Mr Johnson would recall Parliament before a Supreme Court ruling on the case next week - and perhaps as early as today or tomorrow.

[Mi-Amigo]

More than likely Boris the Spider will ignore the ruling and not reconvene Parliament, hoping to win the appeal in Supreme Court next week...