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Beware of O2Recycle (AKA Redeem Ltd) - Read Before Selling Them Your Phone!

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If you are thinking about selling your phone to this company, think twice.

 

I received a quote from them for selling my iPhone 4S 32GB of £105, which I accepted. I sent my phone to them in the pre-paid packaging provided, but before I did so, I took photos of it at every angle, including with the display set to a white screen (to show up any defects).

 

The phone I sent them was perfect, having only been supplied by Apple eairlier this year as a replacement for a faulty one. I always use wallet-style cases so that the entire phone is protected, including the display. The phone has never been dropped and didn't have a scratch.

 

Here's where the fun bit starts.

 

A few days after sending the phone back I received a message from O2Recycle/Redeem Ltd claiming "Screen damage : Discoloured area on LCD (shading)" and offering me just £21.60 - 80% less!

 

I queried this and asked for photographic evidence, as I had sent a perfect handset to them. I also sent the photos that proved the handset was in perfect order.

 

I then received a reply from them with a different statement of damage and that Apple's advice is that it must have been dropped. They told me to 'Google it'. Of course I queried this and asked why are they are now stating something different and in any case, to offer 80% less would to me have indecated a screen damaged beyond repair - which was not the case, even if what they were stating were true. 

 

I also made them aware that I have over 20 years experience working in the high-tech sector, including having deploying and managing many thousands of mobile devices, including iOS devices. Their conflicting claims made no sense and they refused my requests for photographs.. I stated that if their claims were genuine, I would need to make a claim with the Royal Mail (I paid extra to upgrade to an insured service) and photographic evedence was essential for any subsequent claim.

 

I knew by this stage that this was some sort of scam and the fact that I found almost identical stories from their customers online only went to confirm my suspicions. When faced with the facts I had presented them with, including my photos, they suddenly upped their offer to 50% of what they had promised.

 

They tried strongarm tactics of saying I had 48 hours to accept, then 24 hours. I instead repeated my request for photographs before they sent my phone back. I insisted that I must have proof of their claims. They again refused this reasonable request.

 

At this point they decided to just ignore my further emails (there's a pattern of this if you search online). It wasn't until I warned them that my next emails would be to their owner, CEO and also to the CEO of O2 That they replied. I also made them aware that I knew that O2recycle/Redeem Ltd were in negotiations with O2 to renew their recycling contract.

 

They apologied for "the poor service I had received" and promised to send my phone back to me.

 

And guess what? I have received my phone back and there is not one sign of damage, just as when I had sent it to them!

 

This company is nothing other than crooked and O2 should seriously consider investigating them. I may even decide to contact Trading Standards, as no company should be allowed to behave in this way. At the very least it is uneffecal and at worse this could amount to an attempt of fraud or deception.

 

To add insult to injury, the price companies will pay me for my phone has now gone down during the time of this whole sorry episode.

 

Be warned!

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I guess Redeem Ltd/O2 Recycle don't mind their name being associated with malpractice and this thread appearing between pages 1 and 2 on Google when you search their name.

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Absolutely appalling tale of obvious malpractice. I guess the clincher was them actually sending the phone back in perfect condition.....after claiming it was damaged?

Makes you wonder what is included in the training sessions for staff..... A lecture on 'How to con the customer and reduce the recycle price' is a topic that springs to mind.....:smileysad:

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No....it's worthy of cancelling their contract with O2 even if this was the only incident reported.

 

Fraud is a very serious offence. If an O2 employee committed fraud then they would be dismissed.

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Problem is this has been reported on numerous occasions and it's us the customer who end up paying these people's Christmas bonus. I would rather pass the phone on to a family member than be defrauded in this way.

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Problem is this has been reported on numerous occasions and it's us the customer who end up paying these people's Christmas bonus. I would rather pass the phone on to a family member than be defrauded in this way.


I would agree with that. It amazes me how many times they get away with it if honest...

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Update....   Curiously (?) upon my requesting return of the phone that they valued at £14, Redeem tell me that quality control have reviewed the phone and it is, after all,  worth the full £70 !

I asked them to add the o2 Priority Moments 10% uplift but they said they could not.  I finished the call by asking them to consider compensation for this 'error'.

 

O2 CEO Ronan Dunne might like to know how their 'quality control' policy works.  For example, when the value of a phone is reduced on its return, are such values only ever revised upwards when such an offer is rejected? The test will be if there is a great discrepancy in the percentages of 'quality control revaluation' of accepted and rejected reduced offers. Are there, indeed, any occasions when an 80% reduction is applied and then revised by 'quality control' without the customer challenging it?

 

 

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Hi poetryplease,

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I have just sent in an 18 month old iPhone 5s, valued at £195. I was offered £39 based on LCD Damage, shading. I have been told i might not notice the damage, but that i can be given £94 instead. 

 

This has to be a scam, surely. I have been with O2 forever, and i am seriously unhappy with this service. There was nothing wrong with that phone and i will be taking this up with Trading Standards as well as the usual consumer services like Watchdog. 

 

Not happy at all. 

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