Theresa May announces new Government

[Cleoriff]

The whole world knows Theresa May Is now our new Prime Minister.

Currently watching the news regarding her new appointments

Boris Johnson... Foreign Secretary

Amber Rudd  ...Home Secretary

Philip Hammond... Chancellor

David Davis ....Brexit Minister

That's it at present.....

[Cleoriff]

I don't think he was ready (proven) to stand as leader if honest. However if he does this job well and steps up to the plate....then who knows? (I am not a party member by the way) but one of many who initially was shocked at the appointment.....but then Theresa May must have known what she was doing, giving him this job....

For me...its a wait and see game. The only one I am horrified about retaining his job is Jeremy Hunt. That's because I belong to the medical/nursing profession...

[Anonymous]

I think Hunt is staying because who else would want the job at the minute. Mrs Choegyn is a nurse at Wythenshawe in Manchester and we have massive arguments over how the system should be run. She’s a nurse so she sees the NHS as a wonderful system where everyone gets free medical care and it should be all things to all people, I'm an accountant I see it as a monolithic gestalt which bleeds cash and needs a top to the bottom restructuring.

Hunt may once have been the man to do it, he isn't afraid to make a tough choice, the trouble I see is he went the wrong way about it. He looked at the people; he should have looked at the organisation. They were on to the right idea when they started centralising, so in Grt Manchester Wythenshawe for a time became a heart centre, and the govt should have told the trusts to pack up their cardiac specialists and send them to Wythenshawe and it didn't happen, and then they spent a small fortune reconditioning a heart unit at Fairfield hospital, and the reasoning behind not moving everyone was because it was too far to visit relatives. Someone needs to be the bad guy and say if that’s the sacrifice it takes to keep a person alive then that’s the sacrifice it takes. Hunt picked the wrong argument though, Drs are still treated as gods, and nobody made this fuss when the nurses had their unsociable hours taken away.

[Cleoriff]

I am not getting into a political debate about it...but I am a nurse who finally went into management. I don't view the NHS through rose tinted spectacles. The biggest expenditure for the NHS is the nursing budget...therefore it's ALWAYS the first one to get cut. The offer Hunt put on the table for the doctors was produced as a result of flawed research and the pretence that people would get better 24 hr care. I have news for him. People always get 24 hr care. Taking away the additional payments for doctors to provide this care was, is and always will be damn outrageous. I worked when hospitals were being moved to Trust status. New employees were only offered Trust contracts....which looked better until you examined unsocial hours, annual leave and pensions. I refused to move onto a Trust contract and remained in the Clinical Grading system. Guess who is better off after retirement?

Things that come gift wrapped prettily....don't always provide the best long term presents.

That's it ...Rant over...:smileytongue:

Oh and I certainly made a fuss when they took unsocial hours payments away......but they never took mine as I refused the Trust Contract. Sadly there is no choice given now

[Anonymous]

Sorry wasnt going for  a debate, was meant to be a post about it being an unattractive job role, degenerated though 

[Toby]

Debates are ok guys. We've all got our views :).

[Cleoriff]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Sorry wasnt going for  a debate, was meant to be a post about it being an unattractive job role, degenerated though 

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No I love a good debate actually @Anonymous...Problem is with me ..when I get on my high horse re things I am passionate about .....I have to rein myself in and get down from my soapbox....

[Anonymous]

I know what you mean when my high horse whinneys (? not sure I spelt that right... ho hum) it tends to drown out every noise around, apparently I get "a look". Its why I picked a party and started to get involved in local politics, watch this space one day I will be an MP

[Cleoriff]

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@Anonymous wrote:

I know what you mean when my high horse whinneys (? not sure I spelt that right... ho hum) it tends to drown out every noise around, apparently I get "a look". Its why I picked a party and started to get involved in local politics, watch this space one day I will be an MP

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Good for you @Anonymous Great to be passionate about things that interest you.

Now...when you are a MP......just remember to ask Jeremy Hunt to close the door on his way out...

[gmarkj]

To throw my tuppence into the mix, I think he had the right idea but went about it the wrong way.
He tried to follow the example set by Gove when he reformed schools and penned the prison plan.

My wife knows governers of several different prison/offenders institutes, and has better knowledge than me of how they are run.
The idea of privatisation for these places is so that they are run as a business, rather than a drain on resource - ie, use the budget they are allocated instead of spending what they like. In this manner the company running the facility continues with the contract or not.
The problem here is that the firms who win the contract reduce costs by reducing the number of people who run the facility, impacting on the service given rather than looking at sensible ways to do it - for instance by getting better value from their suppliers.

He applied the same idea to schools with a (broadly speaking) much better result.

I think that the principal behind what he is trying to do (get a better service for less money) is a grand idea, but doing it by impacting those delivering the service might not be the best way to do it...

Edited to clarify - I think what he should have done is get a review done to ensure that the hospitals are using the right suppliers (best product for right price) and trim down the number/level of managers.

[Cleoriff]

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@gmarkj wrote:

I think that the principal behind what he is trying to do (get a better service for less money) is a grand idea, but doing it by impacting those delivering the service might not be the best way to do it...

Edited to clarify - I think what he should have done is get a review done to ensure that the hospitals are using the right suppliers (best product for right price) and trim down the number/level of managers.

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He needed to examine the structure of the NHS...the people earning vast amounts of money for doing hardly anything. The Departments set up to look at this that or the other nonsense and being paid handsomely for it.

No.... what he did was go straight to grass roots level and penalise the people delivering care 24/7

Nursing and medical staff are the very foundation of any hospital. To go in and slash numbers, hours and payments for the highly skilled work they do saving lives...was never going to win him anything. Then to add insult to injury...stating he will impose it. Doctors have already resigned. More will follow