on 08-06-2020 10:37
Why does O2 treat its prepaid customers as second class customers by deliberately denying them network functionality or by implementing network functionality later for prepaid customers than for postpaid customers?
I don't understand why the availability of network functionality, particularly with no marginal cost to O2, should be affected by whether the customer pays in advance or pays in arrears; the time of payment ought to be a total irrelevance to network functionality. Wifi calling and 4G calling have no marginal cost to O2, whereas eSIM has a potential licensing cost, which is why EE charges £1.50 to its prepaid customers for an eSIM.
One unacceptable consequence is that O2's prepaid customers receive worse coverage and increased battery usage compared to O2's postpaid customers. 4G calling gives coverage for voice calls in the countryside on low frequencies that travel over long distances, and wifi calling allows the receiving (and making) of calls where there's no mobile signal, for example on the Tube, and also causes lower battery usage.
Instead of discriminating between prepaid and postpaid customers, why doesn't O2 much more simply implement network functionality for all customers simultaneously?
25-09-2020 16:02 - edited 25-09-2020 16:02
25-09-2020 16:02 - edited 25-09-2020 16:02
Now that EE*, Vodafone and Three all support eSIMs for prepaid customers, this leaves O2 as the only one of the four UK physical networks that still doesn't do so.
The timing of Vodafone's and Three's much delayed eSIM launches this month suggests that the immenent iPhone 12 might have no physical SIM slot and might instead have two eSIMs. However, this theory is countered by leaked photos showing a relocated physical SIM slot.
* My EE PAYG account let me order an eSIM for £1.50 earlier this year but no longer shows this option.
on 27-09-2020 10:55
on 27-09-2020 10:55
on 27-09-2020 10:59
on 27-09-2020 10:59
@madasaf1sh wrote:
Vodafone only support Pay Monthly, no mention anywhere of PAYG :
https://newscentre.vodafone.co.uk/news/esim-support-comes-to-vodafone-uk-smartphones/
If you log into a Vodafone PAYG account, it allows you to swap to an eSIM, even though it's not explicitly stated anywhere that PAYG accounts are supported.
04-02-2021 17:16 - edited 04-02-2021 17:16
04-02-2021 17:16 - edited 04-02-2021 17:16
It's almost 8 years since O2 launched TU Go, an app-based predecessor of wifi calling, which was similarly denied to PAYG customers. Does anyone know why, 8 years later, O2 customers still cannot receive calls on their mobile numbers via wifi? What is preventing O2 from allowing its PAYG customers to use wifi calling?
Vodafone launched wifi calling for PAYG customers last month and included PAYG customers within its launch of eSIMs last September. I still don't understand why O2 treats its PAYG customers as second class customers.
on 04-02-2021 17:49
on 04-02-2021 17:49
on 04-02-2021 20:02
on 04-02-2021 20:10
on 04-02-2021 20:10
@Chris_K wrote:
Unfortunately the capability for Wifi Calling on O2 Pay As You Go isn't there at present.
Thanks @Chris_K, but what is the technical reason behind this? Did O2 mistakenly make an architectural decision many years ago which now prevents billing-agnostic technology (wifi calling, eSIM, 4G calling) from being deployed equally to customers irrespective of how they pay for their service? Otherwise there's no plausible reason as to why prepaid and postpaid customers do not receive the same technological benefits.