on 21-09-2012 15:16
on 21-09-2012 15:16
Just posted these words about the whole sorry iPhone situation to my Google+ and will post to my Blog later - thought you might want to have a read... If there's the desire for it from you guys, I'll post my other updates, including correspondence with the CEO's office at O2 throughout the week and today, later too.
"So, the iPhone 5 is out today. Many people will currently be tucking into their newfound gizmatrons of wonderment with the gaze of a young child being handed his most eagerly anticipated gift on Christmas morning.
But a number of O2 customers won't be, it seems.
O2 were late to the game last Friday (pre-order open day), opening up pre-orders very late in the evening, when most providers had been selling for the entire day already. The O2 community forums were an interesting read with lots of information being granularly fed and customers getting irate as their anxiousness to order through their provider grew.
All the while, O2's customer services, online chat Guru's and various other departments were apparently just giving whatever information they could seemingly make up by sticking their finger in the air and wiggling it around to channel the great god of bullcrap.
No two conversations were the same, no bits of information matched and nobody appeared to have a clue what was happening.
O2 eventually opened pre-orders and the floodgates were more or less broken down immediately as the masses flooded to place their orders.
One of the best bits of information came from a news post on O2's website, posted a full 24-hours after most other people had been able to pre-order their shiny new handsets, here: http://news.o2.co.uk/2012/09/15/the-iphone-5-is-coming/
One part of that post which many have read and believed (and still exists, and is still being referred to even right now by the @O2 twitter account and some of the customer services team and O2 online chat 'gurus'!), was this:
Q: When will my iPhone 5 pre-order be delivered?
A: If we get your pre-order before 4pm the day before launch, we’ll get it to you on launch day. The only exception to this will be those customers with an address in the Highlands and Islands.
So... you could pre-order right up until 4pm on the Thursday and still receive on the Friday launch day! That seems too good to be true! It is...
The O2 community forums (and other forums, for that matter) are awash with people complaining that they are not getting their pre-orders on Launch Day, today. Their informaton is coming from a mixture of things, such as the order status in their online accounts not changing from the ubiquitous 'In Progress' for pre-orders (where others are getting tracking information instead), conversations with O2 chat gurus and by calling up to ask.
An interesting thread to follow is this one on the O2 forums, currently standing at well over 130 pages and towards the end having LOTS of people angry with the service and misinformation being disseminated: http://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple-iOS-Devices-iPhone-iPad/My-iPhone-5-Has-Been-Dispatched/td-p/2909...
This second thread follows a similar format: http://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple-iOS-Devices-iPhone-iPad/Official-Pre-ordered-but-no-show/td-p/297...
And there are many other threads to boot, not to mention some of the tweets being posted to @O2 currently!
What's worse is that seemingly there is no rhyme or reason amongst the orders that are being sent out - it certainly seems that it isn't a 'first-come-first-served', as you'd expect. Some who ordered as soon as pre-orders opened are reporting that they aren't receiving theirs, whilst others who ordered days later are celebrating the fact that theirs has arrived. A very confusing and annoying situation, frustrations which are only escalating as I type this...
I've had my own annoyances with O2 throughout this saga too, which I'll not post here yet (I'll post separately later), but I am in dialogue with a chap in the CEO's office there, who currently seems oblivious to the problems and pretty much denies there's anything wrong. Being the kind soul I am, I have offered to collate some evidence for him... I'll update that all later, along with my other complaints to him too."
on 22-09-2012 13:25
Pablo, is that not the point of a forum, for people to discuss a matter which relates to their situation? Hence a lot of people confused by the conflicting missinformation handed to them by mushrooms in a call centre reading from a script (citation needed) posting on the forum to discuss their own experiences trying to get some answers from O2? Yes many will have received their phone and now will no longer be posting, but for the rest of us who are getting no solid information from O2 are using the oppertunity to discuss the matter and see if we can get any sense out of the situation. Not having a go but it's not about not receiving the phone on launch day so much, it's the lack of care that O2 seem to have for us that are without any information on when we will receive it. All we want is a solid answer, if it's going to be monday for delivery great, if its going to be 3 weeks then fine tell us. We just want some truth and not what O2 think we want to hear as missleading us with false hope will do nothing but anger people more.
on 24-09-2012 10:25
on 24-09-2012 10:40
on 24-09-2012 10:43
on 24-09-2012 10:43
on 24-09-2012 12:17
on 24-09-2012 13:23
@Anonymous wrote:What about the opinion of loads of people who happily received thier iPhones today and haven't been on to bang on about how unhappy they are and how ridiculous the network is?
Fact is that this forum is skewed more towards those who are unhappy than those who are happy.
There is, and always will be, a bias toward the negative when anything like this occurs on a public forum such as this. Whilst those who have their phone as promised are likely oblivious the threads like this even existing, those who are still waiting even the slightest piece of news/information will gravitate toward somewhere like here to share what they have learned and see if anyone else has anything new to share. As a result, the thread will ultimately be predominantly filled with details of failings on O2's part.
That said, it doesn't devalue the thread in any way, nor make those poor souls who invested their time, effort, and (perhaps more importantly) MONEY in to the O2 brand to pre-order a phone any less valid in terms of opinion when they air those grievances.
I don't want to single you out Pablo, your posts on here that I have seen have been helpful and courteous, so I'll preface the following with clarification that it comes as a response to the issue, not you personally
O2 have messed up big time here. They have, rightly or wrongly (ok, it's wrongly, there's no hiding the fact), promised to deliver a product at a set time with no caveat or warning to the contrary and, indeed, continue to do so. They have failed to deliver on that promise (pun intentional - sorry!).
To over promise and then so dramatically under-deliver, it is more than understandable that the frustrations of those who post on the community should be so widespread and heartfelt, particularly when O2 continue to send out mixed messages and what appears to be blatant misinformation.
You only have to look through a couple of threads to see that there are conflicting stories being relayed dependent on the method of communication chosen, and that there is no consistency in those messages in any way. O2's motives for doing so are their own and, to be honest, the general feeling I get reading some of the conversations relayed on here is that they will say whatever they think they need to to get the customer off the phone with the belief that they might, just *might* get a phone before Christmas.
Don't get me wrong, I've been fairly defensive of O2 in the run up to launch day on here, trying to reassure people that O2 would come good on their promises and that it would all work out in the end as it is a major logistical exercise but, sadly, O2 have made me look a little stupid in that defence. That doesn't bother me, I can normally do a good enough job on my own(!) but it makes me wonder why I tried to defend them given they have, and continue to, let down a large number of customers with their misinformation.
I was one of the lucky ones who got their phone on launch day but, given I didn't order until 4 DAYS after some on here who are still waiting, I'm amazed as to how and why that is so.
It is time for O2 to either come clean and explain to each and every customer waiting for their phone why they didn't get it as promised, or to start giving realistic information out concerning prospective deliveries. To do neither is treating the customer with the otmost contempt in my eyes and, as such, I would expect there to continue to be a negative bias around here until they sort it.
As I've always said, there will never be a newspaper headline that says "Plane lands safely".
on 24-09-2012 13:43
I would agree here, I have been waiting for my phone and am not that fussed if it is late or not - I just want to know when it is getting here and I would have preferred to know in advance that it was going to be late so that if I had wanted to I could have made an INFORMED decision at the time whether I was going to wait or go to the shop to buy on the day/after
I think the reason that lots of people are getting angry is due to the lack of information or in some cases (O2 twitter feed) the completely wrong information. There were a lot of people who got their hopes up for Friday and it didnt happen, then got their hopes up for Monday....still didnt happen.
I have been a long standing O2 customer and this will not change that, but I feel that if it was just shown that O2 realise that they have put us through a lot of hassle over this there would be a lot of problems solved
on 24-09-2012 14:09
on 24-09-2012 14:18
24-09-2012 14:30 - edited 24-09-2012 14:30
No problem. We're trying to spread it around the business as fast as we can