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Retrieving texts that have been remotely deleted

RoyalFactor — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:11:59 GMT

There is a potential legal case I have been asked about where someone has said something by text that they are now denying. The person who received the texts has been asked to produce them by a lawyer and has gone to her o2 iphone to find that the conversation now only comprises her texts, all those of the other party have disappeared. How is this possible? And can they be retrieved from a central system?

Re: Retrieving texts that have been remotely deleted

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:16:32 GMT

@RoyalFactor If the texts are no longer there then they may be lost. In some messenging apps there is an option to delete text but that is usually before the recipient has actually read them

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Cleoriff — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:28:52 GMT

@RoyalFactorThe only way I can retrieve deleted texts is by using SMS Back Up and Restore. Not sure that's available for iPhones though?

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MI5 — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:30:39 GMT

Try restoring the phone from a backup but they won’t be deleted unless the person actually deleted them.
They can’t delete by themselves.

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Cleoriff — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:35:28 GMT

A lot of discussion about iPhone sms back up and restore here

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4344995

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RoyalFactor — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:40:41 GMT

Unfortunately the phone wasn’t backed up. I’m wondering if O2 will have them on a central server?

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Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:45:25 GMT

@RoyalFactorwrote:
Unfortunately the phone wasn’t backed up. I’m wondering if O2 will have them on a central server?

I’m not sure that’s possible

Re: Retrieving texts that have been remotely deleted

MI5 — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:50:46 GMT

No, I'm afraid they are gone forever.

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RoyalFactor — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:55:58 GMT

Ok, thanks. Any idea how it could have been done?

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Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:59:29 GMT

@RoyalFactor The previous post of mine said that possibly the person had deleted them themselves. Also corroborated in another post by @MI5

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RoyalFactor — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:01:05 GMT

I know, thank you but that’s not possible. There were many and she desperately needs them to prove coercive control. It looks like the ex-partner has done it but we can’t understand how. He had no access to the phone.

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Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:04:05 GMT

Well that’s for them to sort out but there is no way of retrieving the messages Im afraid

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MI5 — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:04:09 GMT

Maybe the ex knows the iCloud password?

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Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:06:11 GMT

I was just thinking the same thing

@MI5wrote:
Maybe the ex knows the iCloud password?