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    <title>topic Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon in Apple</title>
    <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546058#M113241</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;In summary, we get LTE - there is nobody actually offering 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As you said in the OP some US carriers brand things such as DC-HSDPA as 4G, i.e anything faster than 3G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Others show LTE and this is indeed correct - as that is what they are offering, LTE...not 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All much of a muchness though, at the end of the day the technicalities don't really matter - so makes it much easier to just brand as 4G!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;So why would O2 call it 4G and not Lte ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If O2 are not offering 4G surly they couldn't say they are ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:44:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-10-07T19:44:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546030#M113231</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello everyone,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could anybody confirm which icon should be displayed by the reception bar (dots) if we are under O2's 4G LTE Network? Is it 4G or is it LTE?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The reason I am asking is because in the US with t-mobile LTE is displayed when the phone is really connected to an LTE network and it displays 4G when connected to one of those enhanced 3G networks sometimes referred to as 3.5G like HSPDA+ and&amp;nbsp;DC-HSPA+.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So what does it mean if my phone shows the 4G icon whilst on O2? is that really LTE?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance for your help with this topic.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:27:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T19:27:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546032#M113232</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;4G is the Uk logo you should see.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I assume you have taken up O2's 4G Tariff.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lte is the American equivalent&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:30:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546032#M113232</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T19:30:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546036#M113234</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I always had LTE showing on my devices with EE.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Depends on the carrier, doesn't make any difference - you are still using LTE even if it shows 4G.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:31:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546036#M113234</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T19:31:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546048#M113238</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;A rather extensive read but enlightening.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4g"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4g&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:37:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546048#M113238</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T19:37:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546050#M113239</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You won't get 4G without a 4G tariff, sim card and phone of course.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:38:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546050#M113239</guid>
      <dc:creator>perksie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T19:38:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546054#M113240</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In summary, we get LTE - there is nobody actually offering 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As you said in the OP some US carriers brand things such as DC-HSDPA as 4G, i.e anything faster than 3G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Others show LTE and this is indeed correct - as that is what they are offering, LTE...not 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All much of a muchness though, at the end of the day the technicalities don't really matter - so makes it much easier to just brand as 4G!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:41:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546054#M113240</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T19:41:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546058#M113241</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;In summary, we get LTE - there is nobody actually offering 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As you said in the OP some US carriers brand things such as DC-HSDPA as 4G, i.e anything faster than 3G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Others show LTE and this is indeed correct - as that is what they are offering, LTE...not 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All much of a muchness though, at the end of the day the technicalities don't really matter - so makes it much easier to just brand as 4G!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;So why would O2 call it 4G and not Lte ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If O2 are not offering 4G surly they couldn't say they are ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:44:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546058#M113241</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T19:44:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546062#M113243</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;In summary, we get LTE - there is nobody actually offering 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As you said in the OP some US carriers brand things such as DC-HSDPA as 4G, i.e anything faster than 3G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Others show LTE and this is indeed correct - as that is what they are offering, LTE...not 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All much of a muchness though, at the end of the day the technicalities don't really matter - so makes it much easier to just brand as 4G!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;So why would O2 call it 4G and not Lte ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If O2 are not offering 4G surly they couldn't say they are ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nobody is offering 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What they are offering is LTE - which is not 4G.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's all to do with marketing and they all probably have an agreement that it's ok to call it 4G. Avoids confusion for the consumer I guess.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:46:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546062#M113243</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-07T19:46:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546304#M113279</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is straight from the manual and lte is full 4g the usa called dc-hspa 4g from what I can rember hence 4g as utms not lte, in the uk 4g is true lte source &lt;A target="_blank" href="http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2013/02/20/ofcom-announces-winners-of-the-4g-mobile-auction/"&gt;http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2013/02/20/ofcom-announces-winners-of-the-4g-mobile-auction/&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;note&amp;nbsp;6 to editors the uk has not deployed wimax only LTE&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG align="center" alt="ios7 icons.JPG" src="https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/5176i848980E36C924D15/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" title="ios7 icons.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 06:48:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546304#M113279</guid>
      <dc:creator>adamtemp64</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-08T06:48:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546334#M113282</link>
      <description>Yes we are using a true LTE source, the same as Verizon were in the states.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;LTE does not meet the official criteria for 4G though, but is still branded as 4G.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Unless they have revised the requirements again..&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;It doesn't matter though, that's something most just don't care about. Give us faster data that's all we want and we are happy &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.o2.co.uk/html/@86490D440D0190FE6D301D335D2A66D8/images/smilies/011.png" alt="slight_smile" title="slight_smile" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:41:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546334#M113282</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-08T07:41:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546346#M113286</link>
      <description>So what icon next to the reception bar does it show? 4G or LTE? I would be super happy if it's LTE. LTE "looks" better than the 4G icon.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Does anyone here even on a 4G/LTE tariff?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:58:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-08T07:58:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546350#M113287</link>
      <description>It shows as 4G on O2 as far as I've seen.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:03:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546350#M113287</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-08T08:03:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546364#M113288</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;It shows as 4G on O2 as far as I've seen.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Urgh. Bummer. &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":disappointed_face:"&gt;😞&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can never look at that '4G' icon the same way the Brits are after travelling to America.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: Well, guess I have to change it myself.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:20:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-08T08:20:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546372#M113289</link>
      <description>Only via a jailbreak (which isn't available yet for iPhone 5s or iOS 7) using something like a tweak called Zeppelin.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:33:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546372#M113289</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-08T08:33:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: iPhone 5s: LTE or 4G reception icon</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Apple/iPhone-5s-LTE-or-4G-reception-icon/m-p/546394#M113292</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;So what icon next to the reception bar does it show? 4G or LTE? I would be super happy if it's LTE. LTE "looks" better than the 4G icon.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Does anyone here even on a 4G/LTE tariff?&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;It shows 4G on O2.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:55:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-10-08T08:55:47Z</dc:date>
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