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Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:32:44 GMT

Sorry if this has already been asked and answered elsewhere - had look but could find anything.

Is there an easier way to either log-in or stay logged-in?

My browser (firefox) does not offer to save the log-in details for any O2 sites and if I so much as close the page, I am logged out. Everytime I come to the forum, I have to type my username and password out in full - which is a pain. It doesn't help that I can't log in with my username - I have to input my full (and rather lengthy) email address. I tried using a firefox add-on that autofills content but I'm wary of using third-party apps that have access to passwords and the like - very risky.

It's not exactly an earth-shattering problem - but it would be nice to have a simple solution and I'm thinking that I might be missing something obvious such as a user setting.

Cheers

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:33:50 GMT

It does it to everyone If you are idle after a certain amount of time

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

MI5 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:34:54 GMT

It's in the settings for the board. Leonard was looking into it for us.... nudge, nudge...

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

perksie — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:41:42 GMT

You have to trust somebody sometime, LastPass does it for me.

Various reviews but this doesn't look bad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass_Password_Manager

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

jonsie — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:44:56 GMT

I use last pass and ReloadEvery to stop the timing out. Both on FF and also available on Chrome and Comodo Dragon.

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:58:57 GMT

Basically what Jonsie and Perksie said.

If you are ok with Macro's then you can do a shortcut button but to be honest it takes probably about the same time to type it.

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:07:53 GMT

Thanks chaps - much appreciated.

I'll have dig around regarding Last Pass - seems ideal but I like to be careful when it comes to data security.

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

perksie — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:28:19 GMT

You need to untick this box for it to work with O2:

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:54:57 GMT

This subject comes up time and again - its a right pain and probably the reason im not logged on more than I am, however,,,

In a recent post one of the guys on here (forgive me I dont remember who) suggested I look at Comodo Dragon Browser as an answer or feedback on a question and I did. Dragon will hold me signed in on the O2 web site (but not the forum) so I suppose we are partway there and I recon in time O2 will change their attitude to conform to the other 99% of web site owners.

I hadnt heard of Dragon before and recon to be reasonably savvy pc wise and since then changed several people I support over to Dragon as I am confident now if its going to work it will in Dragon ( which is a tailored version of Chrome )

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:46:41 GMT

Hi guys,

I'm really sorry we haven't made any progress here. Remember me functionality and a longer log in time bring some security risks with them, so it's taking longer than expected.

We're currently looking into the possibility of having a simplified login process for the community to bypass that.

Cheers,

Leonard

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:57:42 GMT

Thanks Leonard.

Allowing the browser to remember the username/email address part of the log-in would be enough - even banking website allow that, they just don't allow the password to be saved.

In terms of security, it's arguable that typing a password in is less safe than storing it on the pc. You have to steal or hack into a pc to get a stored password which may also be encrypted or master-password protected - but you can get a typed password just by looking over someone's shoulder. For that same reason, logging in via a username is a lot safer than having to type your email address - after all, your username is hardly a secret and has no "value" whereas your email address can be spoofed or spammed if falls into the wrong hands.

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:16:51 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Thanks Leonard.

Allowing the browser to remember the username/email address part of the log-in would be enough - even banking website allow that, they just don't allow the password to be saved.

The Firefox add-on " Remember Passwords 1.0.2 " will do this.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/remember-passwords/

It's only a setting in the browsers config which is changed to allow these passwords for secure sites to be saved.
With firefox it's difficult to get at this setting, hence the addon. With IE the setting is more accessible and can be changed manually -- google will point the way.

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:30:34 GMT

This was bugging me as well, so I tried Remember Passwords as recommended by npr and now when I click "sign in" I'm logged straight in.

Thanks npr.

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:53:55 GMT

I prefer not to trust passwords to third-party apps - and it is only O2 sites out of all the ones that I use that have this "feature" so it's not really worth taking the risk.

Hopefully, O2 will see that not allowing the browser to store the details is potentially creating a security risk by encouraging people to give external apps access to passwords. The main browsers are tried and tested by millions of people - the add-ons that offer to store passwords will have a few thousand users at best. It'd be a doddle to have such an app "phone home" with the data it has been given access to.

Re: Quick question for mods/regulars.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:05:58 GMT

I would agree with that, but "Remember Passwords 1.0.2 " is not a running addon as such, it does not save or control any passwords.
All it does is change one setting in firefox, to tell firefox not to honour the instruction from the web site to not save the password.
You could change this setting yourself but it's not a easy process