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Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 06:07:45 GMT

Headline :
Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Excerpt from the ~ Link "Apple has already released a statement on the matter, claiming that iCloud and its subsequent services had not been breached. Cook reiterated those claims today, and added that the Cupertino company plans to rollout a number of new security features to make its devices more safe."

My Thoughts :

I welcome any new introduced security measures which hopefully will go to re install consumer confidence.

Source :idownloadblog
Read more here : http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/09/04/tim-cook-recent-icloud-hacks/

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Cleoriff — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 06:52:24 GMT

Well BoB...I know very llittle about these iCloud hacks and how they could have happened.

I do though have to wonder at Tim Cooks statement.... ie

" "Apple has already released a statement on the matter, claiming that iCloud and its subsequent services had not been breached. Tim Cook reiterated those claims today, and added that the Cupertino company plans to rollout a number of new security features to make its devices more safe."

So as a relatively sensible person I wonder ...if ICloud is as safe as he says...then why the need to roll out 'a number of NEW features to make it safer'....

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 07:05:34 GMT

Very true

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

MI5 — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 07:19:35 GMT

Typical and as expected....
Consumer confidence would be much higher if they were just "honest".

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 08:08:55 GMT

We can only go on what we are told.

I wouldn't like to say anyone involved are being dishonest.

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Cleoriff — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 08:23:33 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
We can only go on what we are told.

I wouldn't like to say anyone involved are being dishonest.

Maybe its called 'being economical with the truth' BoB....:smileywink:

I am not just saying this because its Apple....I would say it about any company that issued a similar statement....

It would be like Amazon saying...Sorry about your goods not arriving...its nothing to do with us...HOWEVER we will be tightening up our delivery services and changing couriers...

EDIT...or indeed the whole Ebay Paypal debacle that we had recently....

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

MI5 — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 08:24:26 GMT

I didn't suggest anyone was being dishonest - Just not 100% truthful.......

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 08:30:46 GMT

It's all fluff and bluster from Tim Cook, essentially just spin to take the heat away from him and Apple for a while.

Two-factor authentication DOES NOT apply to iCloud backups.

iCloud backups can be installed on new devices with only an Apple ID and password. The use of two factor-authentication technology does have a role in iCloud but only when it comes to signing in to "My Apple ID" to manage an account; or when making iTunes, App Store, or iBookstore purchases from a new device or (lastly) getting Apple ID-related support from Apple. If you have the username and password for an account, you could set up iCloud syncing on another device and receive all stored iCloud content (pictures, email messages, contacts, etc.) without being required to use Two Step Verification

Security vendor Checkpoint have stated: "After a hacker has obtained the appropriate iCloud username and password for a person, they can use tools like (edited) to recover data from the three revisions of iCloud backups – which can include content that the user thought was deleted."

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:51:26 GMT

So Apple have decided it would be a good idea to send users an email when someone signs into your iCloud account:

http://www.imore.com/apple-sends-email-notifications-when-users-sign-icloudcom

Am I the only one to think that this doesn't really help at all? Someone is already signed into your account by this point and is likely already taking all your backups and data off onto their own machine. It would be far better to apply two-factor authentication to iCloud backups like they do when making a purchase on a new device.

Sorry Apple, but it's not enough!

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

MI5 — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:54:16 GMT

Horse gone, stable door bolted

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:02:19 GMT

They had to say something I suppose. 😞

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

jonsie — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:03:56 GMT

Apple are masters of the non-statement.

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:39:32 GMT

My worry is that iPhone and iPad users think that their iCloud accounts are now safe and secure when they are far from it!

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:42:44 GMT

In all honesty as the iCloud backup holds settings etc as detailed here http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12519?viewlocale=en_US I'm not overly worried.

As stated in your excellent help thread photo steam can be turned off and they stay in their for a limited time.

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:46:48 GMT

The iCloud backup can store alot more than settings though if you turn the options on (which I assume most people will do) :S

Actually, BoB you might know the answer to this:

You posted last week that Photo Stream via the iCloud program on a PC or Mac will only sync 30 days worth of photos, which is correct as that is what Apple states on their website. However when my girlfriend checked PhotoStream on my PC last night she was able to sync her pictures from when she got her iPhone a few months ago! Any idea why?

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Cleoriff — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:47:14 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
In all honesty as the iCloud backup holds settings etc as detailed here http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12519?viewlocale=en_US I'm not overly worried.

As stated in your excellent help thread photo steam can be turned off and they stay in their for a limited time.

But...unless you visit this forum and see the thread re turning off Steam...you are not going to know this BoB

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:50:03 GMT

This is true and true with most situations @Cleoriff

The info is readily available through apples site or a google search.

And forums like this and others.

Re: Tim Cook speaks out on recent iCloud hacks, promises new security measures.

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:54:26 GMT

Hi @Anonymous

I also recall something recently where one of the people involved said they deleted the picture from iCloud.

If a person shares an Apple ID across multiple devices it's feasible someone still had a picture on their camera role which uploaded again to iCloud.

Also iTunes and iPhones / iPads keep previous back ups too which it's possible one of the older back ups had the photo. (Maybe)