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Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 14:37:42 GMT

So the new season will start in March and Australia was planned as usual to be the opening track. Now it looks set to be cancelled. (March 21st)

I have heard via someone who lives in Australia that although Covid related, nothing to do with that per se. More due to the fact, they are not prepared to run it without spectators. It's a street circuit and they make millions from the fans and ticket prices.

I'm inclined to agree with that. The Covid Bubble teams have put in place seemed to work well, 3 drivers out of 20 catching a mild dose and 3 team staff...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/formula-1-season-opener-in-australia-set-for-postponement/4935595/

It means that the Bahrain Grand Prix scheduled for 28 March now looks poised to become the 2021 season opener.

Re: Formula One 2021.

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 16:14:24 GMT

I see LN had a dose of C-19 in Dubai. 😞

Re: Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 18:29:08 GMT

After I party so it's reported. Get well soon Lando...

Still awaiting news of LH's contract @Anonymous

Bit of a sticking point with Ola Kallenius who has tried to block one of LH's contract requests. He has now been removed from the negotiation talks.

He is the Head of Mercedes Benz and Chairman of Daimler AG. I think it was decided as he has nothing to do with F1, he was becoming a negative influence.

I'm hoping we hear something official soon as currently LH is out of a job..

Re: Formula One 2021.

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 18:35:17 GMT

I hope in the current climate he’s not holding out for more money.. I’ll be so disappointed.

Re: Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 19:04:13 GMT

Although nothing official has been announced it seems he is not asking for an increase in salary at all. Though he is asking for a percentage of the winnings if they win the constructors again. Also wants to be an ambassador for Mercedes E.V cars.

He is currently on 40 mill a year and isn't even in the top 20 highest paid sportspeople.

If you consider Vettel was on $60 mill in 2018, Schumacher on 50 mill at Ferrari and Alonso 35 mill when he was at McLaren, I don't think his demands are unreasonable at all.

I think Kallenius is one of the 'Anyone can win in that car brigade' and wanted Russell.

Also (and this is just hearsay) apparently told LH's people if he was so keen on supporting 'black lives' why didn't he have an all black pit crew?

That was out of order and borderline racist, so Toto said enough was enough and he was kicked out.

Re: Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 00:13:40 GMT

Happy 36th Birthday Lewis

Hope they announce you have signed your contract today!

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jonsie — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 01:17:19 GMT

Re: Formula One 2021.

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 14:19:52 GMT

Racing Point now Aston Martin.. wtaf

Re: Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 14:43:25 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Racing Point now Aston Martin.. wtaf

Yes apparently the new livery will be Racing Green, which is surely better than pink!?

Re: Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 14:49:53 GMT

A proposed livery design from Mark Antar. No guarantee this is the one.

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Anonymous — Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:13:44 GMT

I see Australia has now been moved to Nov 21

Re: Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:31:37 GMT

Yes and thankfully China has gone to the unconfirmed list. Imola is back....

This will change but is the new one. (I hope they shove Portimao in the gap)

Re: Formula One 2021.

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:13:19 GMT

So Renault now Alpine..

Re: Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Thu, 14 Jan 2021 19:02:16 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
So Renault now Alpine..

Yes.

In other news. Charles Leclerc has Covid19. Now isolating at home.

Lewis Hamilton contract. No news, other than speculation.

Re: Formula One 2021.

Anonymous — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 12:34:23 GMT

If he doesn't sign before the season starts they should just leave him out of it. He might think he's invaluable but without a team he's just an ego

Re: Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 13:14:51 GMT

@Anonymous

As no-one knows anything of the contract negotiations, I think that's a pretty strong statement to make.

I have never seen any sign of over inflated ego with LH.

Toto and Mercedes have said all the rumours flying around regarding anything to do with the contract are just that. Rumours. No-one invites the press to sit in on contract discussions.

If I was to make a guess it's probably contract length which is the sticking point.

I haven't heard he is asking for any more than the 40 mill he was on for the last 3 years.

I just want to put this out here. No-one said one word when Vettel was on 60mill at Ferrari in 2018. Alonso on 40 mill at McLaren before he retired. No-one moaned and those two did sweet FA for the team.

On the other hand LH brings 200 million to Mercedes in sponsorship and prize money.

When he joined the team, Merc stock was worth xx millions. Now it's worth xx billions.

It's been said 'anyone can win in that car'. Certainly can, although Bottas has failed to beat LH in 3 years. As Danny Ricciardo said, 'yes we might win, but could we do it with consistency and supreme skill over a year. I doubt it, that's why Lewis has won 11 out of the 17 races last season'.

Just to add, LH isn't among the top 20 highest paid sportspeople in the world. Federer leads the list, followed by Ronaldo, Messi and Neymar. The rest of the list is made up of UK basketball players.

So apparently, if you bat, kick or throw a ball you are worth more than a F1 driver who races at 200kph for our entertainment.

Re: Formula One 2021.

Anonymous — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 15:32:57 GMT

Ola K of Mercedes stating it's about money.. and if that is true, coming from the guy who voted for wage caps in 2022 is a bit of a p#£& take. And now you've got Eddie Jordan telling us what he knows.
So yes if it's about money and how much 'he' thinks he's worth then it's 'ego' nothing more.

Without looking back on the thread you mentioned something about a slice of the winning.. was that not about money?

Its all a bunch of refried cow pies. Hamilton is a driver, a good driver but a driver. An employee who now believes he should own part of his employers company. His employer compensates him extremely well for being an outstanding driver. Lets remember that his job description is to negotiate a track with a car. Included in that is being responsible for maintaining an acceptable relationship with his fans. but that is being hampered by his ego and self centered attitude

I saw this and thought yeah.. I could've typed that and felt good about putting it out there

Re: Formula One 2021.

jonsie — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 15:42:50 GMT

Take cover....

Re: Formula One 2021.

Cleoriff — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 18:34:00 GMT

Ola Kallenius was removed from the negotiating talks 2 weeks ago. After he made the comment that Hamilton should have an all black team on his side of the paddock.

If Hamilton doesn't race next year, I will still watch F1, as it's the sport I love, not just because Hamilton is in it.

As for Eddie Jordan, when did he suddenly become relevant? Never has been for years.

(Or has he been sitting in on the contract talks as well?)

I have no doubt that Kallenius thinks they could get someone cheaper, like George Russell. The guy who came 9th on the easiest track on the calendar. Even though they cocked up the pitstop, they didn't give him the puncture. Wouldn't have happened had Hamilton had been racing. He would have refused the pitstop, said my tyres are fine and raced to the win.

As for your comment written in heavy black....well totally presumptious really. He has brought Mercedes 6 world championships. They were nothing when he went there. 5th in the WCC. They won the constructors the year after he joined. If Hamilton has lost fans, it's more to do with his fight to end racism and encourage diversity in the sport he loves.

If you are going to make statements @Anonymous then please have the courtesy to include links. It helps make your comments relevant.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/76606/hamilton-asks-for-too-much-money-how-on-earth-do-they-know-that.html?campname=highlighted-content&camplink=inarticle2

Re: Formula One 2021.

MI5 — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 19:00:38 GMT