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The grumble thread

ComaChameleon — Fri, 20 Apr 2018 11:28:46 GMT

Sometimes it can help to just scream it out what's [Removed] you off....

I'll start...

As my "company" (aid relief, but behaving like a company) changed so many things.... Our teamleader was thrown out, is a normal co-worker now... The shiftplans are "planed" centrally now (I can't even say it's planned, that would imply it has a structure, but it's just like throwing [Removed] on a paper). The shiftplan is.... just no. We work our asses off, have plushours galore and the other watch has minushours. So they have freetime enough and we thought about putting containers on the watch to live there, because we don't know why we pay rent for our flats - we're hardly ever there!... And the best shifts are always given to the temporary workers who already have a very good job, so they get the extra amount on money instead of us....

Next week I can finally take my annual leave from LAST year (by law you have to take it by 31th march by exception... I got it excepted even longer. I'm so ready for a holiday!

Re: The grumble thread

Bambino — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:33:29 GMT

I'd suggest you start looking for another job while you're on your annual leave. If you're that unhappy where you're working, you ought to be working somewhere else.

Re: The grumble thread

ComaChameleon — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:36:30 GMT

@Bambino

From 1st June (or 15th) I'll have another (safe) job. But until then I have to be there still... We're all like "I don't wanna be here" and pissing each other off. Even at home were acting mad to our families... 😕

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Bambino — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:47:16 GMT

@ComaChameleon That's not a very healthy situation for your family. It's not their fault. I'm glad you have another job to go to, but for your family's sake, if you're that unhappy at work, you should suck it up and try not to take it home with you. The 1st of June isn't that far off.

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ComaChameleon — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:56:34 GMT

@Bambino

I know 😞 But sometimes you just can't suck it up. The situation is getting worst since november and now it's the point where even the most positive-thinking co-workers are just *bleep* off.

The first sentense we're changing at watch is "I don't wanna be here" - "Me too" - really, no fun, every shift.

You can see our stress at the door, so many cigarettes! xD

Re: The grumble thread

Anonymous — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:00:04 GMT

@ComaChameleon

It's definitely no fun when you feel overworked and thus constantly exhausted and irritable.

Thinking of looking round myself for that reason too.

All the best

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Cleoriff — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:49:10 GMT

I agree working in an environment which is toxic and brings no job satisfaction is rather soul destroying.

I worked in the NHS for years. When I started to make my way 'up the career ladder' it was exciting at first though after 15 years at the top it became a constant struggle to meet targets and deal with cutbacks etc.

I had to reassess my priorities.

People who think Nursing Management is a cushy job need to think again. You also lose all contact with patients, the very people you were trained to care for.

I retired slightly early and within 2 months, I took up a job in a nursing home.

I didn't really need to, but I wanted to touch base again with people who needed care. My love of the job returned after I made this move.So no regrets for me

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jonsie — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:51:07 GMT

Ah the joys of being a motor technician, doing a job you love and great satisfaction when you rebuilt an engine from scratch or overhauled an automatic gearbox. No stress. I got more stress from bringing my boys up but again, great pride in how they turned out. If I had my life over I would only change the last year or so.

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Rycal — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:33:13 GMT

I have to be careful what I say in here as I work for O2 😂

I actually love my job, I get immense satisfaction from helping people so my role is perfect - especially in the last year where I've started doing more community work with organisations like the RNIB and AgeUK.

My only real grumble recently is from dealing with fraud and thefts. We get targeted a lot by thieves and it's getting worse, gangs of young adults raiding stores, ripping phones off display and intimidating staff. We are currently reviewing new security measures such as improved clamps to house demo phones as a result of an increase in these thefts.

Obviously this sort of thing isn't exclusive to O2 or the mobile industry as a whole, it happens everywhere these days.

Re: The grumble thread

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:25:27 GMT

@Rycal

If all the operators/network equipment and OSS/BSS software companies and of course the manufacturers across the globe actually coordinated their efforts to block stolen handsets via the IMEI blacklist I reckon you (and many others) would have an easier job as there wouldn't be so much incentive to steal hardware.

Re: The grumble thread

ComaChameleon — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 21:12:25 GMT

Thanks @ all

This continuing stress is the worst. I was home "sick" for a week now... I calmed so much down! Have to work 2 days now 'til my vacation starts. So needed!

With some of my co-workers I'm in constand contact via whatsapp/fb and they're the same. One of my friends from work was sick the same time. It's the same with her, she calmed down and just feels a bit less stressed now.

@Cleoriffit's sad when the love for the job goes away. Especially in a job where caring and love is very necessary. 😞

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Cleoriff — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 23:10:03 GMT

@ComaChameleon wrote:

@Cleoriffit's sad when the love for the job goes away. Especially in a job where caring and love is very necessary. 😞

True @ComaChameleon and sadly this is why many nurses are leaving the profession even though they love it. The stress and inability to do their job to the highest level makes the situation hopeless. The more they do, the more they are expected to do. Obviously as nurses are the largest percentage of health care professionals in the NHS, it's always the nursing budget which is cut first. A lot of nurses stick with it. Others choose to leave... A sad state of affairs really

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jonsie — Mon, 16 Apr 2018 23:23:05 GMT

@Cleoriff wrote:
@ComaChameleon wrote:

@Cleoriffit's sad when the love for the job goes away. Especially in a job where caring and love is very necessary. 😞

True @ComaChameleon and sadly this is why many nurses are leaving the profession even though they love it. The stress and inability to do their job to the highest level makes the situation hopeless. The more they do, the more they are expected to do. Obviously as nurses are the largest percentage of health care professionals in the NHS, it's always the nursing budget which is cut first. A lot of nurses stick with it. Others choose to leave... A sad state of affairs really

I've seen so much of this as a long term inpatient. I got to know all the nurses so well and I've seen tears at times but I've seen them all smiling through adversity, always there with a smile, encouragement or harsh words when needed or deserved. I miss them all but I'm so sad and angry the way they have to cope under impossible stress and working conditions.

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ComaChameleon — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:01:15 GMT

It's always this "hoping the patients won't notice that you don't have time for them".... As an intern I was able to stop my work and just listen to especially old people who felt lonely. The nurses didn't had that time.

Always money gets cut at the wrong place @Cleoriff ....Only more wage for the upper-class... It's always enough money to put that higher.

On the other hand there are so many patients going to hospital who don't need it, where a GP would be the right choice, so they block beds & nurses which would be more needed for others...

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Cleoriff — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:40:58 GMT

I could write an essay on this @ComaChameleon but it might be boring for others

In short, health care in the UK all started to deteriorate when

1) Hospitals for Elderly Care were disbanded and every one was closed down.

2) NHS Commission decided Care In the Community was a damn fine idea!! (Good in theory, in practice it isn't working at all)

3) The Griffiths report decided to restructure management and created multi-tiers of highly paid staff...which effectively reduced the budget at grass roots level of care. These top level managers have no background in medicine and can only see how to cut back on essential services. (and still leave the NHS in debt)

4) Elderly people are living longer and now are expected to be looked after by the community teams, who have also had their budgets slashed. So if the ill and elderly have family, they are expected to provide more than 50% of the care.

I could go on but won't.

I am delighted that research and development means we now are implementing surgical/medical procedures which were unheard of 20 years ago...but it costs money and there is never enough.

And don't get me started on MP Jeremy Hunt!!!!

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ComaChameleon — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:27:03 GMT

@Cleoriff

Today my collegue and I talked about something at the hospital during a cigarettebreak. Our other ambulance was at a person-under (train) scene (suicide). He is a teacher at a ems.-school too. And we talked about trauma-reanimation and how it's different in UK and here. So we came to the question how effective the UK-system is (opening the thorax to CPR) - it's fine and better. But the survival-rate is lower in UK, bc of the NHS and it's system. Not sure yet why, bc I don't know (yet) the differences... But that's hard in my opinion.

It's a similar development here. Sadly...

On another note (appreciation on our jobs) .... This night the proceedings of our new pay rates are done! 7,5% more wage during the next 3 years (every year 3,x ; 3,x and 1,x percent).... Our union didn't even demand that much! Plus 250€ on top one time and the 3,x% backdated to march!

Just awesome!

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Cleoriff — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:16:24 GMT

@ComaChameleonDelighted to hear of your pay rise

However, not sure where you got the information about CPR in the UK?

I was responsible for setting up CPR training for all staff members at our hospital. (about 1200 staff)

We did the simple ABC technique. Staff were assessed on Resusci-Annie (a CPR dummy) and only passed if they scored over 98%

Even paramedics who attend a cardiac arrest, don't open the thorax. Nor do Dr's in Accident and Emergency or specialists in Coronary care.

Only on very rare occasions is the chest opened. During surgery or other very acute situations.

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ComaChameleon — Thu, 19 Apr 2018 18:56:53 GMT

@Cleoriff

nono, Not in a "normal" CPR, just on Trauma (!) related ones. The UK outcome is better that way, but the total of reanimated persons surviving is worst.

Over here it's not even thinkable to open a chest pre-hospital (even the unions say its the better way). But as I said, only in trauma-cases, not in general

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Cleoriff — Thu, 19 Apr 2018 19:04:54 GMT

They don't even do it as normal practice in Trauma related cases @ComaChameleon

However, I can only speak for the West Midlands area.

No idea what they do in London etc...although I honestly have never heard it's custom and practice anywhere in the UK?

Re: The grumble thread

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Apr 2018 09:53:15 GMT

My moan is the Mental Health Service //_-

No self ferrels, walk in places, don't actually know from there head to toe. Push you off on meds. Etc

The hole care system is dammed.