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IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:46:48 GMT

Hi,

Just a quick question here that I'm hoping someone may have the answer to.

I have an 02 contract which is currently 18 months in of a 24 month contract.

Yesterday, my IPhone 6S (£600 iPhone purchased through 02 via 24 month contract) packed up and stopped working.!

I have spent an entire day chasing after 02 and Apple for answers to which none say the same.

3 trips into the 02 store to be told that I'm out of luck as the warranty is only 12 months, 2 trips into Apple to be told that the phone has a hardware fault and if I had bought the phone from them directly, they would replace the phone there and then as I have consumer rights.

02 told me that my consumer rights are only valid for the first 2 weeks of buying the £600 Iphone.

Apple eventually wrote me up an engineers report saying it was faulty due to hardware issues, it is said the phone needs a direct replacement at a cost of £280(ish) and that 02 should replace the phone under the consumer laws....

02's reply was that I either paid to repair the phone myself (outside of Apple warranty) or use my insurance and pay half the costs + excess...

I'm sorry to seem like I am rambling but surely if you buy a £600 top of the range Iphone on a 24 month contract, you would expect that phone to last atleast the 24 month period in order for it to be "fit for purpose"?

Thank you.

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

MI5 — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:55:07 GMT

Yes you have rights but getting o2 to honour them is a different story altogether.
I suggest you seek free legal help from citizens advice bureau and take it from there.

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:22:28 GMT

Hi MI5.

Thank you so much for your reply.

I appreciate any help that I can get at the moment, it is very frustrating as I have wasted a whole today being told that it's my problem and no one else's.

I will go down to CAB tomorrow, Apple made it clear to me that 02 need to repair, replace or refund the phone under my consumer rights, however the phone cannot be repaired and can only be replaced and I wouldn't want a part refund for a phone that I still have 6 months to pay off.

I just want a working IPhone 6S that I signed my contract for. 😩

Its so upsetting I just want to cry.

Thank you so much.

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

MI5 — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:51:26 GMT

Remember that an item has to be "fit for purpose" and last "a reasonable amount of time".
I wouldn't say 18 months was reasonable for a £600+ phone either.
https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Pay-Monthly-and-Pay-Go/Guide-Differance-between-SOGA-and-warranty-extended-warranty/m-p/599174

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:49:21 GMT

Hi MI5.

I am hoping that your last comment was supposed to say "wouldn't" rather than would. 🤔

In my eyes, I think for the phone to be "fit for purpose" then it should last a minimum of the 24 month contract.

The rude lady in the 02 shop earlier today, told me that Apple purposely make their phones fail so that people upgrade every time they release a new model.

ive heard people say this before but just put it down as a myth, however when an 02 "manager" tells you it's true I don't know what to believe. She also told me my consumer rights only last for 2 weeks of taking the contract out.

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

MI5 — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 18:54:56 GMT

Yeah sorry, I've corrected it now.
I'm not sure about them deliberately failing but I do think the 6s is very unreliable.
In our household we've had 4, 4s, 5, 5s, 6, 6s and 7 and the only one that has ever given any trouble is the 6s.
The 5 and 5s are now 4 and 3 years old and still going strong so certainly no built in obsolescence with those.

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:13:14 GMT

once you get an iphone from the network, they will like for like exchange within the first 4 weeks, after that it falls on Apples warrenty, networks will diminish any problems and will refer you to Apple, as an apple customer you phone is protected for 12 months standard warrenty, if you take apple care you get 24 months, HOWEVER Apple will still support any faults you will have to phone your nearest Apple store and book an appoitment with tehir Genious team where they will help you and rectify the problem free of charge, but only in the forst 12 months will apple do a lke for like exchange, I only know this as they have had to deal with me and my handset issues and do replacements. but in this case its apple that you need to deal with

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:15:55 GMT

I would have thought something like that would be an international scandal if they got caught purposely making phones prematurely break.

I don't think they do, I just think they are full with so much hi-tech that they will inevitably fail.

however.!!! Inevitably for me means anytime after the 24 month contract.

I don't see how me paying for the next 6 months for a phone that has already failed (no fault of my own) along with a tariff contract that I can no longer use.

02 just seem to think that they are above any kind of consumer laws and can just fob people off with a NO.

Yesterday my phone broke and I've been told I now have to wait 3 days for a manager to ring me and "tell me exactly what I have already been told, that the warranty has ended so tuff luck, or claim on insurance and pay £140 + excess."

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:17:57 GMT

they cant make a phone prematully break no one can do that! what has exactly gone wrong with the phone? I used to be a manager for CPW and P4U so I may be able to offer some help

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

MI5 — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:19:03 GMT

Stand up for your rights and don't let them fob you off!

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:21:40 GMT

this user has rights but falls with apple not the network.. as i had issues with my 6s and had to go to apple direct to get the phone sorted when it had a hardware fault

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:22:32 GMT

Hi Jollygreengiant.

My phone is 18 months old, I still have 6 months left to pay 02 on my contract.
My phone is now completely dead.

I have been to Apple and they told me if I had bought the phone DIRECTLY from them, they would have given me a free replacement even tho it's 18 months old and up to 24 months, because I would be covered by the consumer rights law.

However.... Apple said that because I bought their phone from 02, they could only give the 12 month warranty but the consumer laws still apply to 02 who should also replace the phone within the 24 months of my contract.

They advised me to go into the 02 shop and tell them my rights but I was just swiftly told to do one.

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:25:33 GMT

has it been exposed to Moisture or water that has caused the phone to die?? have you had the phone "jail Broken"?? what did ytou last do or instal on the handset?

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

MI5 — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:29:46 GMT

Some advice from Which here @Anonymous

http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/what-do-i-do-if-i-have-a-faulty-product

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:30:20 GMT

Thank you MI5, I will certainly do my best.!

JollyGreenGiant, yesterday it all started when my phone said it had a phone jack inserted (when there wasn't) so the sound would not play.

Then I got a warning saying that the fingerprint facility is no longer available.

Then by battery dropped from 80% to 3% in a matter of seconds.

Then the touchscreen stopped working correctly and the phone began to lag and working very slowly.

Then the phone reset itself, about 5 times.
It would eventually come back on showing only 3% battery (even tho it had been on charge for hours)
The phone would only work for roughly 30 seconds and then reset again.

Now the phone does not work at all.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for your time.

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:30:52 GMT

It's probably because o2 are the retailer that sold you the contract & phone where as Apple made the handset & didn't sell it to you themselves but stand your ground

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:32:38 GMT

granted but we still dont know what the fault is or how it has happend so we still dont know if it falls under the manufacture T's and C's im not trying to be awkward but we still dont know the facts

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:34:36 GMT

Never been jail broken and was not subjected to water.

It's very weird.

I hadn't installed any apps for sometime.

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:36:46 GMT

have you down loaded anything from a 3rd party on a game or an app or facebook or email etc??

Re: IPHONE 6S 18 MONTHS OLD CONSUMER RIGHTS.

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:39:27 GMT

its sounds very much like an internal software failure and Apple should uphold their policy and repair the phone they wont replace it but should repair it and that will unfortuantly mean leaving the phone with them you just need to phone apple and book your self in at your nearest apple store thats all you can do! and that is within your rights!!!