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Rewards: Nomination idea

Toby — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 16:31:51 GMT

Hi guys,

We recently held an open discussion on rewards and you all contributed beautifully, giving us lots to work on behind the scenes (charity, points, how we present the rewards, etc), but one thing I wanted gauge thoughts on the idea of nominations. Its an idea I've been thinking about since @Anonymous 's post here.

It consists of a nomination system, where all of you can nominate a post, guide, review, joke or whatever else you can think of to us via an open thread or PM:

- Myself or a member of the community team posts a thread asking for nominations before the usual rewards are calculated at the end of each month.

- You then either make a post on the thread, or send a PM to me with your suggestion. We'd never want to force a\nyone to do this publicly

- We then collate the nominations and pick the most popular. They would then receive a reward of a certain amount (undecided)

The idea of this is for us to be able to reward posts of a great quality, rather than just helpful activity in general. Also, we have many members who post less regularly, but still have fantastic insights and points to make when they do make a post. We want to celebrate that.

What are all of your thoughts on this? Is it s a nice thing to do? Does it promote favouritism? How would you do it differently (if at all)?

I'm eager to hear your thoughts. I'm personally very invested in this, but you're the ones who's opinions count a whole lot more

I hope that all makes sense!

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

MI5 — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 16:37:53 GMT

I like the idea and as long as it was checked to make sure it wasn't being abused I'd say give it a shot and see how it works out

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Cleoriff — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 16:44:57 GMT

Would this be in addition to the current Reward system @Toby ?

I personally think it's a good idea.... if monitored fairly.

Would the community team be giving us a 'shortlist' of posts to consider for this award?

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Beenherebefore — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 16:47:29 GMT

"- You then either make a post on the thread, or send a PM to me with your suggestion. We'd never want to force a\nyone to do this publicly "

What I find distinctly odd is that there seems to be an aversion to do things in the open on this Community.

PMs are used extensively for secret communications.

Have faith in your convictions and don't be afraid to publicise them.....there will always be someone who disagrees with you......but always someone like-minded who will agree with you.

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

viridis — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:25:14 GMT

I nominate gerry,
Makes you lot up there earn your keep.
Failing that, I nominate viridis for thinking of someone else before himself.

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

anticpated — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:20:31 GMT

I vote for pedro.

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:51:27 GMT

@anticpated wrote:
I vote for pedro.

Me too. (BTW Who is pedro?)

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:10:14 GMT

Personally the idea doesn't really float my boat. There are so many posts on here and to be honest most of the super tech stuff comes from a few regular contributors (I don't begrudge them getting rewards, they do so much on here). So I don't see the value.

I also see it being open to abuse.

Personally I prefer the charity option. Love @MI5's way, generally gets £50 reward and sends it on to his nominated charity (and probably gift aids it too so £62.50 most months - fabulous).

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 21:05:36 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Personally the idea doesn't really float my boat. There are so many posts on here and to be honest most of the super tech stuff comes from a few regular contributors (I don't begrudge them getting rewards, they do so much on here). So I don't see the value.

I also see it being open to abuse.

Hi @Anonymous As to the "value", the thinking, as I understand it, is to widen the system of rewards so that it is not confined to the "few regular contributors" who as you rightly say produce most of the "super tech stuff".

As to the potential for abuse, I do not think it is any more likely to be abused than the current system and I have certainly not seen or heard any complaints about that. Unless or until proven otherwise I for one am satisfied that the Community Management Team are beyond reproach in that regard.

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 21:07:06 GMT

That's fair enough @Gerry. Differing opinions are healthy. We don't all agree, it is how we disagree that matters.

Keep the debate live and healthy.

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 21:35:33 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
@That's fair enough @Anonymous. Differing opinions are healthy. We don't all agree, it is how we disagree that matters.

Absolutely agee @Anonymous - so here's the deal. You can be right be 50% of the time and I will be wrong the other 50% That should work out OK.

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

anticpated — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 22:38:33 GMT

+50 + -50 % = 0% therefore you would be right even when he was wrong or right. Possibly such an axiom could blow a hole in society itself.

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 22:58:54 GMT

No no no @Gerry.

I am right 100% of the time and
You are wrong 100% of the time.

Now that analogy works

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:07:40 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
@No no no @Anonymous.

I am right 100% of the time and
You are wrong 100% of the time.

Now that analogy works

Hmmm? Your 100% + my 100%=200% - That can't be right now, even I know that!!! But I'll bow to your superior intellect ~~any~~ every day of the week.

Now, that's enough nonsense for one thread - back on topic please!!!

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:28:46 GMT

Yes sir

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Toby — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:31:14 GMT

@Beenherebefore wrote:

"- You then either make a post on the thread, or send a PM to me with your suggestion. We'd never want to force a\nyone to do this publicly "

What I find distinctly odd is that there seems to be an aversion to do things in the open on this Community.

PMs are used extensively for secret communications.

Have faith in your convictions and don't be afraid to publicise them.....there will always be someone who disagrees with you......but always someone like-minded who will agree with you.

Hi @Beenherebefore. Giving an option of PMs or posts on a thread is simply giving everyone the choice that suits them most. PMs are used for lots of reasons. Secrecy is not one of them. Privacy for an individual member is. I prefer to do as many community-centric things publicly as possible, such as creating threads like this

@Cleoriff , this would be in addition to what we have. We are however also looking into what we have and amending it

Some very interesting points here guys. Abuse is an issue that I had in my mind also.Keep posting your views if you have not already and I'll come back to the thread soon!

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Cleoriff — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:54:41 GMT

Thanks @Toby Still wondering whether a shortlist of posts/topics would be drawn up by the community team?

I honestly couldn't see how it would work otherwise. For instance, (without a shortlist) I have visions of everyone on here casting their vote for a different post or topic. It then would become unmanageable..i.e who would decide out of the 100's that may be submitted.....??

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Anonymous — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:34:39 GMT

@Toby wrote:
Hi @Beenherebefore. Giving an option of PMs or posts on a thread is simply giving everyone the choice that suits them most. PMs are used for lots of reasons. Secrecy is not one of them. Privacy for an individual member is. I prefer to do as many community-centric things publicly as possible, such as creating threads like this

@Cleoriff

Abuse is an issue that I had in my mind also.

Two interesting points here @Toby I will deal with the "abuse" issue first. When @Anonymous mentioned the possibility of abuse I, perhaps wrongly, assumed he meant abuse by the team responsible for deciding on the awards, and my response was based on that assumption. Now you raise the matter of abuse and I have to assume that you are not in the least suggesting any abuse at your end, so that leads me to believe you are concerned at the possibility of abuse by the Community Members. What sort of abuse do you think could arise? Some sort of cartel organised presumably via PMs to secure votes for particular entries?

The second issue is your interesting remark " Giving an option of PMs or posts on a thread is simply giving everyone the choice that suits them most. PMs are used for lots of reasons. Secrecy is not one of them. Privacy for an individual member is." Is that a general statement of Community policy on PMs or one relating only to the choice of a public vote/PM vote in the matter of rewards? I know that is "off topic" but maybe you could start a separate topic so that all members can have an opportunity to discuss.

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

Toby — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:39:31 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

@Toby wrote:

Hi @Beenherebefore. Giving an option of PMs or posts on a thread is simply giving everyone the choice that suits them most. PMs are used for lots of reasons. Secrecy is not one of them. Privacy for an individual member is. I prefer to do as many community-centric things publicly as possible, such as creating threads like this

@Cleoriff

Abuse is an issue that I had in my mind also.

Two interesting points here @Toby I will deal with the "abuse" issue first. When @Anonymous mentioned the possibility of abuse I, perhaps wrongly, assumed he meant abuse by the team responsible for deciding on the awards, and my response was based on that assumption. Now you raise the matter of abuse and I have to assume that you are not in the least suggesting any abuse at your end, so that leads me to believe you are concerned at the possibility of abuse by the Community Members. What sort of abuse do you think could arise? Some sort of cartel organised presumably via PMs to secure votes for particular entries?

Hi @Anonymous ,

I was talking about abuse of the process in general, but its easily avoided. Our team would keep a log of previously rewarded members, as well as taking time to be as fair as possible and judging great content objectively from you guys. Its a very minor concern for me and I was not referring to members abusing it as I dont see how this would happen. I dont think cartels are a huge issue for the O2 Community personally

Re: Rewards: Nomination idea

viridis — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:46:03 GMT

Hi @Toby

Just wondering if you will be accepting nominations for "most removed posts"?

If so, it's spelt v-i-r-i-d-i-s