topic Re: Data Speed on an eSIM in Android

Data Speed on an eSIM

Mokookie — Tue, 07 Jan 2025 00:21:58 GMT

So I'm proudly showing my Pixel 9 Pro XL to a colleague who has just bought an OPPO X8.

Checking his data speed, he was hitting over 250Mbps on 5G, and there I am on my Pixel next to him, getting a measley 32 Mbps max, also showing on 5G.

He's on a physical SIM, I'm on an eSIM.

Any ideas why he's getting so much faster than me?

My data speeds vary from location to location obviously; the most I've had (at home right now) is 132 Mbps.

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

Enlli — Tue, 07 Jan 2025 08:01:19 GMT

Not an observation that has come up here.

The only difference I know is that unless you have a plastic SIM 5G Stand alone does not work on Android with eSIMs you need an R15 plastic for that. Doubt that is the case here though

If your SIM slot is free call into an O2 store with photo ID and swap to plastic.

Less problems all round

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

MI5 — Tue, 07 Jan 2025 08:02:12 GMT

@Mokookie

Same network or different?

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

Mokookie — Sun, 19 Jan 2025 14:16:03 GMT

We're both on pay monthly O2.

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

MI5 — Sun, 19 Jan 2025 14:56:15 GMT

@Mokookie

You'll need to go in store with photo ID and get a replacement plastic sim to prove the theory.

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

japitts — Sun, 19 Jan 2025 20:49:16 GMT

Do you run any apps capable of identifying the eNB-ID and EARFCN (carrier) in use?

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

PixelRosie — Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:21:15 GMT

Hi @Mokookie

The only thing i can think of is the oppo find x8 pro is 5g standalone sa compatible, However the google pixel 9 pro xl isnt 5g standalone sa just yet and only 5g non-standalone NSA will work.

There two ways you can find a list of supported O2 5G SA via O2 website by going, Shop > Phone > Filter By > Connectivity > 5G SA Tick and https://www.o2.co.uk/5g and scroll down to How do I get 5G Standalone?

Fair as i know, O2 5G Standalone SA will work with compatible devices from the lists of phones published from O2 above, Also You'll also need an plastic R15 SIM card as mentioned above from @Enlli so when the google pixel's becomes compatible, your good to go.

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

Enlli — Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:06:31 GMT

5G SA has not been made available to the general customer it seems

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20250214/featured/virgin-media-o2-5g-sa

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

madasaf1sh — Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:27:25 GMT

5G SA has been made available to general customers, the only caveat is that you need an R15 SIM card or if you can get a new 5G SA enabled eSim

There is a whole thread on SA on Ispreview and o2 is in there..

TBH @PixelRosie The list on the website is out of date compared to the what is advertised on the o2 shop as my Z Fold 6 is not on the list but supports it on o2, but surprised the Pixels cant support 5G SA seems a bit ridiculous

Update

Actually the Z Fold 6 is listed as the Fold6 (did no one at o2 proof read the updates).

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

PixelRosie — Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:52:36 GMT

@Enlli Its only pay monthly O2 / VMO2 users that are allowed to use O2 5G SA providing they have a R15 plastic SIM card.

@madasaf1shFair as i know, EE are the only networks that support the Google Pixel 9 series since the December 2024 update however Vodafone has supported the Google Pixel 8 series and + unless they rooted there Pixels to force 5G SA what can be done easy via Google Pixel 7 providing they got 5G SA enabled, Three is just pure Non SA.

Yes, The Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6 is listed 5G SA via O2 online shop here

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

madasaf1sh — Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:52:33 GMT

@PixelRosie

EE do but they also want another pound of flesh if you want to use 5G SA and only on 2 plans (All Rounder and Full Works) and now its only 3 Pixels all the 9 Series (no Fold) and for once Voda support more on a service than EE and o2...

The better thing to do is try and find a 5G SA connection, they are like unicorn poo

Going on the fact that MVNO's have a lot of trouble with Pixel Devices even connecting to 5G its no surprise, that support is patchy...

Three are just useless TBH

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

Enlli — Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:57:29 GMT

To be frank data speed no longer concerns me. As long as I can do what I want to do in a given location that's fine.

I have an R15 SIM. I also have a Pixel 9 XL Pro and an S23 plus both SA enabled. But the nearest SA to me is EE

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

Mokookie — Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:27:53 GMT

Thank you all!

Well it does look like that it comes down to SA vs NSA. I'll be travelling for the next couple of months, so 'll need to stay on an eSim for now (which by the sounds of it doesn't yet support SA) - then consider a physical SIM and hope my Pixel 9P XL works with it even though none of the pixels are listed as SA compatible on O2's site!!

Thanks again.

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

Enlli — Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:32:59 GMT

@Mokookie

If I get to an O2 SA area, I'll let people know regarding the Pixel

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

madasaf1sh — Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:35:44 GMT

I will test at the end of next week as going to put myself through the torture of a Switch Up, from Z Fold 6 to Pixel Fold 9 as miss the Pixel Fold... and Samsung is slow at getting Android 15 out to any of their handsets...

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

Mokookie — Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:56:17 GMT

How is your fold? I assume no SA availability.

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

Mokookie — Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:56:43 GMT

Thank you

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

madasaf1sh — Thu, 20 Mar 2025 11:01:17 GMT

Its a Gen 2 Pixel Fold so the P9PF so has 5G SA, and I have been getting 5G SA coverage in Sheffield, and it now works with 5G and VoLTE on Spusu

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

Enlli — Thu, 20 Mar 2025 11:17:15 GMT

Not really impressive figures. My local Vodafone LTE gives over 300 Mbs down and about the same as O2 SA up

Re: Data Speed on an eSIM

madasaf1sh — Thu, 20 Mar 2025 11:21:55 GMT

Its not at all, compare to this on CM Link (we are testing some EE stuff at work) at the same location on the P9PF

o2 lag behind so much