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    <title>topic Re: S8 battery usage stats not showing app usage in Android</title>
    <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157544#M70098</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/906256"&gt;@gazzawazza&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;I'd skip O2 support and go straight to Samsung:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:31:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Bambino</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-10-01T15:31:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>S8 battery usage stats not showing app usage</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157535#M70097</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;hi all&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Weird one.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;O2 S8 (new not refurbished) - approx 1 year old.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Running latest available OTA Oreo (firmware G950FXXU3CRGH - August 2018 security patch)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Suddenly, my battery stats are NOT showing app usage. Has probably been like this for around 10 days. Only thing that happened around the same time was a new Google app update.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Don't believe it's that (as I don't reckon the Google app contains battery usage code - might do but doesn't strike me as its purpose. i.e. battery stats are OS level, i'd have thought).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Anyway, tried a cache partition wipe - no change&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Did a factory reset - no change.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Guess that 'could' point to battery hardware issue but again not convinced. Just feels like it's a software issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;OS battery usage stats DO show:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Screen&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Device Idle&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cell Standby&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Estimated battery life (in stats) seems about right.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;NOTE: the factory reset definitely helped my battery life, which seemed to be depleting fairly fast or at least was poorer than my recollections).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm definitely using apps - have since installed Accubattery and there's not question that I'm using apps sufficiently (according to the mAh usage) to appear under the OS battery stats.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Am really surprised that the factory reset didn't help.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Will try O2 tech support but thought I'd ask all the closet gurus as well &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.o2.co.uk/html/@C7C4F5E26AC13549E026B570280BB498/images/smilies/002.png" alt="smiley" title="smiley" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Finally, the OS battery stats of course used to work fine.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Questions:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Any ideas?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Was thinking about trying to reapply the first Oreo release (to&amp;nbsp;effectively repatch whole OS, since subsequent Oreo releases, going on filesize, are incremental). Can I do this? Should i use smart switch or Kies? Any consequences to this (e.g. do i need to fiddle with bootloader, any implications for warranty)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gary&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:36:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157535#M70097</guid>
      <dc:creator>gazzawazza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-01T14:36:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: S8 battery usage stats not showing app usage</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157544#M70098</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/906256"&gt;@gazzawazza&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;I'd skip O2 support and go straight to Samsung:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:31:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157544#M70098</guid>
      <dc:creator>Bambino</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-01T15:31:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: S8 battery usage stats not showing app usage</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157546#M70099</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/14600"&gt;@Bambino&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/906256"&gt;@gazzawazza&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;I'd skip O2 support and go straight to Samsung:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks yeah - got nowhere, though guy did make some modest efforts to help me.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Customer service trasferred me to network team though, even when i said i didn't think it was a network issue.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Out of curiosity, do you know if i can force apply an earlier ROM onto my phone?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I suspect OTA updates are incremental patches. Was thinking about putting first Oreo release on handset, to effectively reinstall Oreo.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gaz&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:36:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157546#M70099</guid>
      <dc:creator>gazzawazza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-01T15:36:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: S8 battery usage stats not showing app usage</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157549#M70100</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/906256"&gt;@gazzawazza&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Not sure if you can go back to an earlier ROM. Google would be the best place for you to search for that.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:41:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157549#M70100</guid>
      <dc:creator>Bambino</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-01T15:41:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: S8 battery usage stats not showing app usage</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157557#M70101</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/14600"&gt;@Bambino&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/906256"&gt;@gazzawazza&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Not sure if you can go back to an earlier ROM. Google would be the best place for you to search for that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;ty. Looks like Odin is the tool to do this. Not clear if i can apply earlier ROM, though it appears there are 5 components typically to ROMs:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class="post-text"&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;CSC (Consumer Software Customization)&lt;/STRONG&gt;: It is specific to geographical region and carriers. It contains the software packages specific to that region, carrier branding and APN setting.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;PIT (Partition Information Table):&lt;/STRONG&gt; You only need it if you screw up your partition table or if the firmware specifically requires it because of a change in the partition table layout.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;BL (Bootloader):&lt;/STRONG&gt; As its name implies, this option is used to flash the Bootloader of the device.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;AP (Application Processor or PDA):&lt;/STRONG&gt; Android.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;CP (Core Processor):&lt;/STRONG&gt; We call it Modem.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;source: &lt;A href="https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/176515/what-do-the-terms-bl-ap-cp-and-csc-mean-in-odin" target="_self"&gt;https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/176515/what-do-the-terms-bl-ap-cp-and-csc-mean-in-odin&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I flash all of them, i guess i should be ok. However, it might be that rolling back to an earlier boot loader blocks the ROM update (read that on a thread somewhere - boot loader 4.3 i think stops you going back to earlier BLs). If it's the same BL then i guess people would be ok.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2018 16:10:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157557#M70101</guid>
      <dc:creator>gazzawazza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-01T16:10:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: S8 battery usage stats not showing app usage</title>
      <link>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157562#M70102</link>
      <description>If you go backwards you will lose ota updates and&lt;BR /&gt;trip the Knox fuse.&lt;BR /&gt;A fresh install of the latest rom will reinstall the whole firmware anyway so it would be pointless going backwards.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2018 16:56:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android/S8-battery-usage-stats-not-showing-app-usage/m-p/1157562#M70102</guid>
      <dc:creator>MI5</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-01T16:56:38Z</dc:date>
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