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Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:36:35 GMT

Anyone else have this bluetooth migraine problem?

For months i have been getting incredible headaches at work.

Someone asked me to send a file via bluetooth to them and after 2 -3 mins i had a really bad headache !

As an experiment , i downloaded bluetooth spammer and sent messages to everyone at work asking them to turn off their bluetooth devices, miracoulously after a couple of minutes my headaches subsided.

After a bit of research , it seems that bluetooth uses a similiar wavelength as microwaves, but the weird thing is out of all the people i have talked to ( maybe 20-30) only 3 people seem to be affected by this ( small sample but approx 10%).

I have checked for research on the web but cannot see anything.
if anyone has the same issue let me know, would like to get some numbers on this.
regards

Bluetooth Headset Headache

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:13:07 GMT

I have the Motorola H690. Whenever I have it in my ear and in the "on" position, it gives me painful headaches. I don't necessarily need to be speaking. The ear piece that came with my blackberry is usb. Whenever I used that, I was fine. I wanted to go wireless because it was more convenient. I've used it in the home and the car and every time, I get these headaches. Does anyone else suffer from this? I don't own a microwave because it has been alleged that they are bad for your health. And I've been reading that the bluetooth sends similar signals.. I'm not technical and only go on what I'm experiencing physically..

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:03:40 GMT

I'm going to use a lot of numbers here, but follow me through with them and hopefully you'll see my point of view.

"Ordinary" mobile radio frequencies are either 900MHz or 1800MHz depending on the operator. On the 900MHz system, the maximum handset transmission power is 2W and on the 1800MHz system it is 1W.
Source: http://www.techmind.org/gsm/

Bluetooth headsets operate at 2.4GHz (2400MHz) with an output power of 2.5mW (0.0025 of a watt).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Uses

For comparison, bear in mind that a single bar electric fire is 1000W.
A microwave oven operates at about 1800MHz (similar to mobile radio transmissions) but at 600W-800W.

I will grant you that the radio frequency used for mobile phones, bluetooth headsets and microwave ovens are all in the microwave part of the radio spectrum, but the key thing to bear in mind is the output power.
Mobile phone: 1W-2W
Bluetooth headset: 0.0025W
Microwave oven: 600W-800W

The radio output from mobile technology is vanishingly small compared to a microwave oven. I'm not saying that your symptoms aren't real, however I believe mobile phones/headsets could only have a small contribution to these headaches as the power levels involved are so low that the radio signal hardly gets through the skull. I know I have enough trouble getting a mobile signal inside a building!

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

Anonymous — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:31:04 GMT

Re Bluetooth headaches...

Both myself and my husband have noticed that bluetooth causes us headaches. Recently I was trying Wii Fit at a friend's house, and I'd love to get one, but as soon as it was turned on I could feel tension in my forehead. We didn't play long enough to get a headache, but I don't know whether I could stand it for long. If things that we can't feel directly (like solar radiation on a cloudy day) can harm us and cause cancer, then I really wonder about something I can feel.

My husband also gets a headache from wireless broadband sometimes.

For your records, I also have a friend who suffered nausea for a year, saw numerous doctors, and eventually, when she heard about my husband's headaches, she realised that her nausea symptoms coincided with getting wireless broadband. She turned it off when it wasn't being used, and that solved the problem. She then got her husband to test the theory by turning it on without telling her. The nausea quickly returned.

I am checking on the net for all the info I can find about this subject. I think some of the replies I find to similar complaints reek of divide and conquer tactics and fake "scientific evidence".

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:43:22 GMT

Re Bluetooth headaches...
Both myself and my husband have noticed that bluetooth causes us headaches. Recently I was trying Wii Fit at a friend's house, and I'd love to get one, but as soon as it was turned on I could feel tension in my forehead. We didn't play long enough to get a headache, but I don't know whether I could stand it for long. If things that we can't feel directly (like solar radiation on a cloudy day) can harm us and cause cancer, then I really wonder about something I can feel.
My husband also gets a headache from wireless broadband sometimes.
For your records, I also have a friend who suffered nausea for a year, saw numerous doctors, and eventually, when she heard about my husband's headaches, she realised that her nausea symptoms coincided with getting wireless broadband. She turned it off when it wasn't being used, and that solved the problem. She then got her husband to test the theory by turning it on without telling her. The nausea quickly returned.
I am checking on the net for all the info I can find about this subject. I think some of the replies I find to similar complaints reek of divide and conquer tactics and fake "scientific evidence".

That's very interesting. I've often been slightly concerned about all wireless radio 'radiation' & if it really affects us or not. Let us know what you find out

on bluetooth

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:42:26 GMT

hi,
is any one had the side effect while using bluetooh like:
i am using for 1 month , having headache and always sleepy mode,tiredness
before using bluetooth i haven t any of these side effects.
i am quiting using bluetooth for while until proving no side effects occuring.

Bluetooth gives me headaches too

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:38:01 GMT

I don't usually let my phone's bluetooth turned on but once I forgot it turned on and my phone was in my pocket for like 4 hours while I was in the city right?So when I got home I had a really hard headache and I was wondering WHY? Then I've remembered that I had my bluetooth turned on.This happened twice.I don't care about the people that say that wireless devices use low wattage and and try to explain how it works.I KNOW it does affect human brain so be careful.Keep wireless devices as far and as long as you can from you.Peace!

Just make an experiment okay?

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:30:42 GMT

Look,just do what I tell you.Turn your bluetooth ON and hold it in any of your pockets for 3-4 hours.Tell me how you feel after 4 hours.If you hold it in the pocket near your heart your pressure will go very high and you'll feel like very sick.Don't give me that contributors #### cause I don't buy it.When something is not good for your health it's just not good.So stop trying to convince me it's not the wireless.Read this:WHENEVER I TURN MY PHONE'S BLUETOOTH ON AND HOLD IT FOR SOME HOURS(4h max) IN MY POCKET, IT GIVES ME HEADACHES NO MATTER WHERE I AM.

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:57:31 GMT

I don't meen to burst your bubble, but if their was a problem with Bluetooth, that affected 3/30 or 10% of the population, I don't think we would still be able to use it.

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

jonsie — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:42:57 GMT

....so if I now have a headache from too much wine, I can blame it on the BT

Seriously, my BT is on permanently 24/7 and the only time my mobile is over 3 feet (sorry, I've not gone metric yet)away from me is when the phone is on charge. Like sheepdog, my phone is on the bedside cabinet every night. I can honestly say, I have no headaches or heart problems even when driving for 4 hours with the BT in my ear.

Maybe different effects for different people.
I'm afraid it's one of personal choice as even the experts can't agree! If you feel that BT is making you ill then obviously don't use it or just use it when necessary.

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:18:00 GMT

I am glad to see this topic here.

I got headache from bluetooth, too.
I work in IT. So please do not try to tell me my headache is from something else.

I know all technical about bluetooth.

Five years ago, I bought my bluetooth headset. that was the first time I got headache from bluetooth device. I was trying to showoff so I wore for half an hour hour waking on the street. My head hurt for the rest to the day.

Five years in IT, I think I have collected enough experience about bluetooth headache. Bluetooth keyboard, bluetooth mouse, bluetooth scanner, laptop with bluetooth, car with bluetooth, and etc...

Acura uses bluetooth on his cars. I got headache right after stepping into dealership. I believe other cars use bluetooth as well. Acura has the strongest single over all others.

Recently, the province I live in pass the law require every car drive to use hands free device while driving. More and more people have bluetooth headset now. I think I better stay at home for the rest of my life....

headache and bluetooth

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:10:36 GMT

I am happy to hear about more people with the same problem.
I don´t use bluetooth machines normally. But i got this beatiful "magic mouse" from apple, wich uses this kind of technology. The first day I uses 2 hours or more, and then I realizad i get dizzy. I wen to bed and when I look at one point at the wall it started to make circles as when you are drunk, and I was not drunk at all. I am still using it, to make tests about how I feel after a couple of hours or more using it. Couse I don´t want to blame it without being sure. I am going to make more tests. This could be a massive health problem for millions of people,

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

perksie — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:16:32 GMT

Rarely have I heard so much ill-informed guesswork as some of the posts here, have none of you read and absorbed (if it won't make you feel bad) the post by Zenith, giving you the power outputs of various devices?

If Bluetooth makes you ill so will your home phone and your Sky box, possibly the street lamps too, in fact your only hope of survival may be to disconnect the electricity supply to your homes altogether.

Normal Bluetooth only works to a range of about 10 metres anyway.

I have been using mobile phones for 17 years and Bluetooth ever since it was available, all day every day.

If you feel unwell go and see a doctor.

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

perksie — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:37:59 GMT

Hi sheepdog

It's not as if this info is hidden or hard to obtain, you can look up these emissions on the internet easily and see exactly what little power they have. 😐

Circles on the wall - Good Grief!!

Another conspiracy theory

jonsie — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:27:11 GMT

Wow! another conspiracy theory.I think anyone having these sort of problems needs to see an optician to rule out the eye problem. Maybe they should stop using BT products and stay away from anyone using them. Passive bluetoothing will possibly have harmful effects on your brains....but it may be too late already. The goverment is sure to ban passive B/tooth in pubs and restaurants and especially in cars! Bluetooth is averywhere, and if you have convinced yourself that it has a detrimental effect on your health, then stop using it and make sure your family follows your reasoning.
Then please leave the rest of us to enjoy the benefits of Bluetooth.
I wish everyone good health.

Re: Bluetooth Headset Headache

perksie — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:55:37 GMT

I have the Motorola H690. Whenever I have it in my ear and in the "on" position, it gives me painful headaches. I don't necessarily need to be speaking. The ear piece that came with my blackberry is usb. Whenever I used that, I was fine. I wanted to go wireless because it was more convenient. I've used it in the home and the car and every time, I get these headaches. Does anyone else suffer from this? I don't own a microwave because it has been alleged that they are bad for your health. And I've been reading that the bluetooth sends similar signals.. I'm not technical and only go on what I'm experiencing physically..

As for microwave ovens these have been used since 1967 all over the world with no problems.

Try a little research of your own instead of relying on hearsay and gossip.

Microwave radiation

The microwaves emitted by the source in a microwave oven are confined in the oven by the material out of which microwave oven is constructed. Tests have shown confinement of the microwaves in commercially available ovens to be so nearly universal as to make routine testing unnecessary. According to the United States Food and Drug Administration's Center for Devices and Radiological Health, a U.S. Federal Standard limits the amount of microwaves that can leak from an oven throughout its lifetime to 5 milliwatts of microwave radiation per square centimetre at approximately 2 inches from the surface of the oven. This is far below the exposure level currently considered to be harmful to human health.

from Wikipedia. Not always a reliable source but this info is commonly available.

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:49:07 GMT

Your Acura (Honda) statement and going into a dealership. Correct me here but in my car, Bluetooth is only active when you switch on the engine so unless they were running the engine inside...

For whatever reason, I kept thinking Acura's keyless entry system is using bluetooth technology. You might be right. Maybe just one of their salesmen happened to have their bluetooth on while I went in.

I am here to share my problem with people who have the same problem. I just want them to know that they are not alone.

If you don't believe what I said, that means you don't get headache from bluetooth. I feel happy for you. I really do!!

You have no idea how bad my life is now. Every time I feel something, I have to find whose device is and beg him to turn it off.

migraine wireless

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:44:40 GMT

I quickly forbade use of wireless at home as soon as we got it, as as soon as it was switched on I became confused, the hairs on my back went up, and my skin tingled. I knew when it had been switched on from these effects without having seen or heard it was on, and my son was forced to believe me even though he had thought it to be nonsense.
Unfortunately, it has been introduced at work, and I can't avoid it there. I have just now been released from hospital with suspected TIAs (minor strokes), but not fitting the pattern well, and suspicion of migraine from the doctors but again not fitting standard patterns.
Thank you for your posts about bluetooth - as a result, we have turned off our lovely(!) bluetooth mouse.

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

jonsie — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:19:03 GMT

I didn't know this thread was still going. There you go sheepdog, radiation to cook your duck, just strap a mobile to its back and call it 3 times a day

Bluetooth causes headaches / migraines

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:43:42 GMT

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen such unsubstanciated claims in all my life.
Heres a few numbers for you :

Approx Uk Population : 61m.
Approx Number of mobiles phones in the UK at present : 1.8 per person.
Approx Total mobiles in the UK : 1.8 x 61m = 109.8m handsets.

If the OP's experiment were extrapalated to fit these numbers (10% effected) then we would have a total of 6m UK persons who would suffer from this wireless/bluetooth signal/headache issue............Really, i think I may have heard or seen something in the media about this if it were so?

And with over 109m handsets in the uk, all using one form or other of wireless technology (because mobiles are not connected to any wiring, they become 'wireless') I would have expected some sort of national up roar regarding a huge protion of the national population having constant headaches, my numebrs above also do not include wireless land line hand set in the home, just mobiles.

This headache issue may well affect a very very small number of the population and the medical world may not be able to either diagnose or prove that wireless emmissions are causing this, but please be realistic.

Our planet is bombarded daily with microwaves and other solar emissions which are not fully filtered out by our atmosphere, some of these have longer, some shorter waves lengths, some are proven harmful to humans others are not harmful. The emissions made by any technology created by human hands is completly insignificant compared to what the universe chucks at us each day.

If we really were all as sensitive to man made emissions as some on this post would suggest then how do you explain the millenia of human evolution we have gone through whilst being constantly struck with more powerful natural radiation (which also includes the spectrum of waves that are used for bluetooth, wirless etc)?

I suggest those afected get themselves a good tailor and have a tin foil hat and suite made, maybe with some of those lovely wire coat hanger lapels? And bottle caps for buttons?