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What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 09:30:24 GMT

Does anyone in B3 area know/can check?

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

gindygoo — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 10:48:45 GMT

Well I found this out, that 4g in the UK use these three bands..

Band 20 (800MHz)
Band 3 (1800MHz)
Band 7 (2600MHz)

That was from this thread here http://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Discussions-Feedback/Interesting-Article-on-4G-in-the-UK/m-p/967266/highlight/true#M81768

Although I've no idea locally what'll be used, maybe a call to cs on 202 will help but they mightn't know either tbh.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

PhoneChanger — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 10:54:14 GMT

To my knowledge O2 operates on the following bands:

2G: 900MHz & 1800MHz
3G: 900MHz & 2100MHz
4G: 800MHz

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 11:10:03 GMT

@PhoneChanger wrote:
To my knowledge O2 operates on the following bands:

2G: 900MHz & 1800MHz
3G: 900MHz & 2100MHz
4G: 800MHz

Last I knew O2 has started deploying B3 LTE recently.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 11:20:03 GMT

@gindygoo wrote:
Well I found this out, that 4g in the UK use these three bands..

Band 20 (800MHz)
Band 3 (1800MHz)
Band 7 (2600MHz)

That was from this thread here http://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Discussions-Feedback/Interesting-Article-on-4G-in-the-UK/m-p/967266/highlight/true#M81768

Although I've no idea locally what'll be used, maybe a call to cs on 202 will help but they mightn't know either tbh.

Band something only indicates the bands used, not the bandwidth(in 2 x ? MHz).

Actually it is talked about in that post, but not showing O2 B3 bandwidth.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

PhoneChanger — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 13:54:02 GMT

@evantkh O2 have started to deploy 4G over the 1800MHz band, however the exact level of coverage is unknown.

Based on historical available data the bandwidth was 2 × 5.8 (so 2 blocks of 5.8Mhz of paired spectrum)

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 13:56:16 GMT

@PhoneChanger wrote:
@evantkh O2 have started to deploy 4G over the 1800MHz band, however the exact level of coverage is unknown.

Based on historical available data the bandwidth was 2 × 5.8 (so 2 blocks of 5.8Mhz of paired spectrum)

It is even smaller than the current B20 bandwidth.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 14:06:15 GMT

http://www.prattfamily.demon.co.uk/mikep/frequency.htm

It seems O2 will run into a network jam if O2 stops data compression with respect to number of subscribers and capacity.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

adamtemp64 — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 15:18:28 GMT

http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/radiocommunication-licences/mobile-wireless-broadband/cellular-wireless-broadband/policy-and-background/licensee-freq-tech-information/uk-cellular-operators/

shows all networks frequency ranges (bandwidth) on all of the allocated frequencies

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 15:22:30 GMT

How is that TDD spectrum used?

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

adamtemp64 — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 15:34:42 GMT

But remember that the more masts an operator has the larger the capacity for subscribers. old 2012 data here http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/sitefinder/sitefinder-dataset/

The key question is the backhaul capacity as this is where the real bottleneck will be.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 15:53:14 GMT

but I think the backhaul capacity may not be that important as long as it is large enough for fixed broadband traffic. which also likely enough for mobile communications.

I can see O2 has a lot of masts, but the spectrum is also a very important factor.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

adamtemp64 — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:54:11 GMT

This thread is again going far to in depth for a customer to customer help community

All the facts etc are on the ofcom site http://media.ofcom.org.uk/facts/ and other places on the ofcom site if you dig around but there are nearly 4 times as many mobile customers than fixed broadband connections. Backhaul data is the most important factor.

Remember that people that are out and about are not using the home broadband connection hence the rapid rise in mobile data usage.

Localisation of masts will give a greater user experience as long as the backhaul is up to the job.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:59:18 GMT

As I know number of connections does not mean more bandwidth, or I may have misunderstanding on browsing habits in UK because I don't know whether large file transmissions are often even on fixed broadband in UK.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

jonsie — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 17:22:36 GMT

You don't do simple do you @evantkh? Methinks you are trying to baffle us with technical questions

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

Cleoriff — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 17:23:51 GMT

@jonsie wrote:
You don't do simple do you @evantkh? Methinks you are trying to baffle us with technical questions

Baffled?....Nah....

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

jonsie — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 17:32:01 GMT

@Cleoriff wrote:
@jonsie wrote:
You don't do simple do you @evantkh? Methinks you are trying to baffle us with technical questions
Baffled?....Nah....

I switch my phone on and see 4G I'm happy...

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

Cleoriff — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 17:35:04 GMT

To be honest I have never found a lot of difference between O2's 3G and 4G .....both work well for me...

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 17:56:40 GMT

I think it is the problem with the contention ratio. In my home country it is never specified and a 1000M broadband service often has an actual speed of about 5xx Mbps at peak hours and a 100M broadband providing 24 hour full speed with 80% guarantee in T&C.

Re: What is the spectrum bandwidth of B3 LTE?

evantkh — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 18:14:47 GMT

@Cleoriff wrote:
To be honest I have never found a lot of difference between O2's 3G and 4G .....both work well for me...

Yes, you don't get a problem in the final service. What I mean is if O2 doesn't do compression to anyone.