17-12-2014 18:28 - edited 17-12-2014 18:36
17-12-2014 18:28 - edited 17-12-2014 18:36
Apologies if you have heard this on the news but as it is health related I thought I would post it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30513439
Smoking in cars with children will be banned in England, under new laws put forward by the government.
Apparently MPS are to have a final vote on this. If passed it will come into force next October
Veritas Numquam Perit
on 17-12-2014 18:32
on 17-12-2014 18:32
on 17-12-2014 18:42
That's an intersting topic @Cleoriff - but I wonder if it has been thought through? In the link you provided it says "A fine of £50 will be issued to people who smoke or who fail to prevent another person smoking." (presumably it means smoking in a car.) It is probably the BBC's usual incompetent editing, but if that is an accurate report then it would seem that a child under 18 who does not take steps to prevent his/her parents or anyone else from smoking in a car will be fined £50. Taking the matter just a little bit further, what actions would a person be allowed to take to prevent another person smoking? What would happen for example if a driver lit up when speeding down a Motorway at 70mph? How could anyone "prevent" that?
on 17-12-2014 18:42
on 17-12-2014 18:42
on 17-12-2014 18:56
on 17-12-2014 18:56
I agree @Anonymous .....it does look as if the child could/should report the smoker in the car. As you ask...how could they do that? If reporting is done at the end of the journey.... then the cigarette is smoked and no evidence available. I really hope they 'fine tune' this law if they decide to implement it.
@Beenherebefore Certainly will be a case of those who are caught. I hope we don't see high speed police chases purely to catch someone with a cigarette on in the car.
I can say from experience that I have our granddaughters car seat in my car at all times. Unless you are higher than me you are unable to see if there is actually a child in the car seat though...
Veritas Numquam Perit
on 17-12-2014 19:10
@Anonymous wrote:That's an intersting topic @Cleoriff - but I wonder if it has been thought through? In the link you provided it says "A fine of £50 will be issued to people who smoke or who fail to prevent another person smoking." (presumably it means smoking in a car.) It is probably the BBC's usual incompetent editing, but if that is an accurate report then it would seem that a child under 18 who does not take steps to prevent his/her parents or anyone else from smoking in a car will be fined £50. Taking the matter just a little bit further, what actions would a person be allowed to take to prevent another person smoking? What would happen for example if a driver lit up when speeding down a Motorway at 70mph? How could anyone "prevent" that?
Valid points Gerry.
The Reps at my work are forbidden to smoke in company vehicles which they do. And what about the situation of e cigs ?
on 17-12-2014 21:23
on 17-12-2014 21:23
on 17-12-2014 23:51
on 17-12-2014 23:51
on 18-12-2014 00:41
MI5, I agree with your post above, without question
WispaRed7 do what makes you happy
on 18-12-2014 08:58
on 18-12-2014 08:58
That also begs the questions about changing radio stations, inserting a cd, eating, unwrapping a sweet or picking your nose.....